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headliner between July 8 1947 the Army

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Air Forces has announced that applying

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this has been found and is now in the

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possession of the on a rig change the

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quickly our differences worldwide would

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vanish if we were facing an alien threat

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with your host Jimmy Church on the game

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changer radio network and a GRA

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it's Monday and this is fade to black

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the spoke radio for the masses yeah

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today's Monday October 16th 289 days

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into the new year just 76 days left we

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downtown Burbank California and I would

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like to welcome everybody listening all

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around the world all across the United

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planets I'm yours Jimmy Church what is

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cracking everybody how you doing it's

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Monday I'm in the chair we had a great

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with the family yesterday and barbecued

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Southern California was a great week in

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force but we had to work all weekend man

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great great week that we have lined up

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in front of us by the way tonight Brian

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lund Duke is here one of the smartest

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computer guys that I know and if I say

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that you know what that means Brian is

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pretty serious pretty cool dude - and

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tonight we're gonna talk about hacking

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why I don't know why the investigators

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whoever else is involved with this hey

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then is a nobody can the DOJ and nobody

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can figure out what's going on and

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hacking the Las Vegas shooter tomorrow

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night Josh gates of expedition unknown

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is gonna be here how cool is that josh

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is gonna be he's in Cairo Egypt right

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now he's out there filming for his show

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and he's gonna join us live from Cairo

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what you know so we staying in Cairo

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and what the view is can he just like

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do a full evening of synchronicity

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creating your own reality that's what

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oh TD on this day in history 1793 Marie

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hacking the Las Vegas shooter and we're

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this fascinating not only case but event

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now Google Google's secret effort to

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scan every book in the world codenamed

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project ocean began in earnest in 2002

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and Larry Page and Marissa Meyer

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sat down in the office together with a

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300 page book in a metronome page wanted

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to know how long it would take to scan

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more than a hundred million books so we

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started with one that was just lying

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around and they had a metronome and they

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set that up to you know keep a steady

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pace on the pages and the flipping he

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and Meyer page through the book

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cover-to-cover and it took them 40

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minutes to scan the book 300 pages

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Google approached the University of

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Michigan a world leader in book scanning

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to find out what the state of the art in

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mass digitization looked like in

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Michigan told Google that at the current

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pace digitizing their entire collection

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at the University of Michigan 7 million

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volumes was gonna take about a thousand

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years well Google told the University of

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Michigan that they could do it in 6 by

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library systems the company outpaced the

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production they had scanned about 25

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million books it cost them around 400

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million dollars now it was a feat that

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just not of technology but logistics now

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think about this every weekday

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semi-trucks full of books will pull up

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at designated Google scanning centers

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the one in testing Stanford's library

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was on Google's Mountain View campus and

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the books were unloaded at one of a few

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dozen brightly lit scanning stations

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arranged in rows of about six to eight

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feet apart the stations which didn't so

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much scan as they actually photographed

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books each station was custom-built by

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google from the sheetmetal up all of it

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and the they could digitize books at a

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rate of about 1,000 pages per hour the

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book would lie in a specially designed

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motorized cradle that would adjust to

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the spine locking it in place and above

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there is an array of lights and at least

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$1,000 worth of optics including four

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cameras two pointed at each half of the

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book and a range of range finding lidar

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that overlaid a three-dimensional laser

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grid on the book surface to capture the

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curvature of the paper the human

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operator would turn pages by hand and no

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machine could could be as quick or as

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gentle you know with the pages as you

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doing it by hand and the and fire the

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cameras by pressing a foot pedal right

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so the human would flip the page you

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know and hit hit the foot pedal flip the

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page hit the foot pedal in August 2010

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Google put out a blog announcing that

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there were 129 million

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864,000 880 books in the world the

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company said they were going to scan

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them all upon hearing that Google was

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taking millions of books out of

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libraries scanning them and returning

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them as if nothing had happened

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authors and publishers filed suit

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against the company alleging as the

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authors put it simply in their initial

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complain massive copyright infringement

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now when Google started scanning they

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weren't actually setting out to build a

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digital library no you know a library

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where you could read any book there in

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its entirety that idea would come later

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their original goal was to just let you

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search books you know for books and

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copyright all they would show you were

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snippets just a few sentences of of

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context around your search terms they

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liken their service to a digital card

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catalog that you would find in the

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library when you were kids remember the

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Dewey Decimal System you get it now

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and check this out this is where it

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starts to get nuts statutory damages for

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willful infringement of a copyright can

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run as high as one hundred and fifty

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thousand dollars for each work infringed

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now Google's potential liability for

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copying tens of millions of books could

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have run into the trillions of dollars a

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lot of money even for Google now instead

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of asking anyone's permission Google had

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plundered libraries this seemed

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obviously wrong and it does right just

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just going in grabbing books off the

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shelf and and copying them right it just

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didn't seem right for sure it was wrong

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and letting Google get away with the

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wholesale copying of every book in

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America is setting a pretty dangerous

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precedent one that might well render all

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copyrights everywhere worthless now stay

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with me what became known as the Google

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Books search amended settlement

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agreement came to about 165 pages of

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more than a dozen dependences it took

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two and a half years to hammer out the

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details and you know this was going to

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court and you know people were suing and

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you know they were trying to stop this

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now they described the negotiation as

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four dimensional chess between the

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authors publishers libraries in Google

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and of course there's other players too

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you know this everyone involved and I

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mean everyone on all sides of this issue

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thought that if it were going to get

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this you know get this thing through

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that this would be the single most

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important thing they did in their career

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so nobody took their foot off the gas

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ultimately the deal put Google on the

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hook for about a hundred and twenty five

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million dollars including a one-time

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forty five million

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pay out to the copyright holders of the

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books it had scanned something like $60

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per bust right along with fifteen point

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five million in legal fees for the

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publishers 30 million dollars to the

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authors and thirty four point five

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million towards creating the registry

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now it also set the terms on how to deal

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with out of print books

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newly freed right that they would be

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displayed and sold

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no more copyright copyright law is

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strange I don't have a time to get into

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the details of it here the United States

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has their copyright laws Europe has

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theirs and then the rest of the world

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has depends on what country you go into

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what the copyright law is by and large

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in Europe you are covered under

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copyright for the life of the author

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plus 50 years automatic coverage and and

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the bulk of books especially the older

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ones that they're all from Europe right

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before 200 years ago there wasn't

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anything 250 there was anything really

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published here in the United States the

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great publishing houses were in Europe

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so anyway and you know that includes

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Russia I mean you know in China and they

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were publishing in Japan but I did the

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agreement Google would be able to

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preview up to 20% of a given book to

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entice individual users to buy it and it

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would be able to offer downloadable

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copies for sale what the price is

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determined by an algorithm or by the

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individual rights holder in price pins

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initially ranging from a dollar ninety

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nine to twenty 99 per book all of the

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out of print books would be packaged

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into an institutional subscription

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database that would be sold to

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universities where students and faculty

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could search and read the full

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collection for free right now think

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about this the paragraph four point

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eight of the agreement it describes in

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blandly

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Billy's the creation of an incomparable

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public utility the public access service

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that will be deployed on terminals to

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local libraries across the country so

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theoretically you could go up to one of

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these Google terminals in a library and

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read just about any book in the world

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the publication of the amended

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settlement agreement to the Authors

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Guild and the entire case was headline

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news

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it was quite literally a big deal a deal

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that would involve the shake-up of the

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entire industry you got to think about

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this authors publishers googles rivals

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legal scholars librarians the United

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States government and the interests of

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public

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paid attention to the cases every move

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when the presiding judge Denny Chin put

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out a call for responses to the proposed

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settlement ya got that those came in

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droves certainly Google's competitors

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felt put out by the deal because

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Microsoft predictably argued that it

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would further cement Google's position

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as the world's dominant search engine

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microsoft has got Bing and if Google's

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got the entire library of the known

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world and their database and nobody else

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doesn't think about that Microsoft put

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their foot down they were saying man

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it's gonna be a monopoly by making it

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the only one that could legally mine out

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of print books Amazon you know they

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weren't gonna lay down the biggest book

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reseller retailer in the world reseller

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and retail they sell used books right so

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Amazon worried that the settlement

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allowed Google to set up a book store

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that no one else could anyone else who

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wanted to sell out of print books they

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argued would have the clear rights on a

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book by book basis which was as good as

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impossible whereas the class-action

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agreement gave Google a license to all

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of the books all at once think about

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that it's the Library of Alexandria

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owned by Google despite eventually

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winning the Authors Guild vs. go

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Google won and having the courts

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declared that displaying snippets of

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copyrighted books was fair use the

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company was all but shut down the

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scanning operation Google stopped now

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this is strange to me the idea that

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somewhere at Google there is a database

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containing 25 million books and nobody

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and I mean nobody is allowed to read

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them it's like that scene at the end of

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the first Indiana Jones movie where they

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put that Ark of the Covenant they put it

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in the remember they chased it up and

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sealed it and crated it up and roll it

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down and just remember that on some

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crazy shelf and it was just lost in the

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chaos of that vast warehouse right it's

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there these 25 million books are there

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think about this people have been trying

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to build a library like this for ages to

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do so they said it would have you know

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you'd have to build something the size

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of of everything and you just couldn't

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do it

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digitizing it is the way to go Amazon

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has been trying to do this for a very

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long time Google could have pulled it

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off

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it was copyright infringement and

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everything else and $150,000 per book

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and antiquated copyright laws which

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should technically be in place to

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protect but it stopped it and it if if

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one lawsuit and copyright law is is very

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stringent and if somebody somebody

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copies your work and you prove it's it's

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it's it's nearly a cut-and-dried case

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publishers win those all the time and

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they will stop things from publishing

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and they would have stopped this

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trillions of dollars of payouts Google

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had no choice so think about that Google

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has 25 million books right now scan and

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they will never ever be read think about

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that there's like maybe a half dozen

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engineers that was on the scanning

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project

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who happened to have access because

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there are the ones responsible for

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locking it up and this is fade to black

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I'm your host Amy Church it's that just

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the most fascinating like thing ever

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speeches having been viewed by millions

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and amazon.com best-selling essayist

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Brian has written multiple books about

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Linux including one for children by the

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way and I've often wondered I'm going to

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ask Brian one more time is it Linux or

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Linux in his past life Brian was the

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vice president at video game companies

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he likes what he does today a whole lot

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more and I would like to welcome back to

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the show the one and only Brian

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one do Brian good evening my friend how

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are you oh man I'm doing fantastic

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thanks for having me back man line-x or

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Linux Linux Linux hard one it's a hard

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one I know but his name yes but he's

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Norwegian and it's it's pronounced

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lineThe over there and not linus like it

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is over here but really it's okay you

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can pronounce it however you like you

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still get the idea you know what I'm

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still gonna mess it up so lonex right

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linings Lynott Linux so you know right

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right do you know a rookie when he comes

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up to you so dude man I installed Linux

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and I can't figure it out and they I

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honestly I get that almost every day

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you have to you have to it's it's so

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confusing and it reads the way that it

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reads but okay so it is Linux Linux ok

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indeed all right all right let's go with

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Linux man we have a lot of stuff to talk

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about

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could I sidetrack you to what you were

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talking about before you brought me on

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for a second part it is a fascinating

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story it is a fascinating story do we

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have two minutes to detour because I

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when you were talking about digitizing

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all of those books and how those are

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stored digitally there's a little story

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behind where those are stored where are

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they stored so a significant portion of

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them are in the Google Data Center in

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The Dalles Oregon it's known as Project

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Oh - they built this mammoth data center

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in the middle of Oregon right on top

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right next to the Columbia River

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literally just right next to it and they

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did that so that they could pipe in all

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of the water from the Columbia River and

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pump it up into these multiple like

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three or four story tall water towers

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and they use those to cool the servers

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and keep them from overheating all the

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time so they constantly have an influx

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of ice-cold water coming in from the

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river just to keep it cool and that data

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center is absolutely mammoth if you

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could if you go to Google Maps or

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whatever other you know map service you

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want to use punch in Google Data Center

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at The Dalles da ll es in Oregon and you

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can zoom in to the satellite view on

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that one and it is huge it is mammoth

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it's this multi building complex and if

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you look at it and you look at the size

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of the cars on the satellite compared to

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the buildings and you start realizing

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that those buildings are many stories

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tall and filled with servers you start

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realizing that the amount of data that's

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in there is absolutely astronomical in

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fact it was estimated that we're talking

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at over 15 exabytes of data which is

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over 15 million terabytes it's

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absolutely just insane amounts of data

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that they can store in there now that's

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not their only data center I'm looking

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at it here how ok let me go to 3d let me

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go to 3d ok how tall are these buildings

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I'm several storeys tall or so

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I think we're looking at probably around

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four stories or so right right right

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how you know what ginormous is not a big

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enough word

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not not nearly big enough no the crazy

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part is what gets really mind boggling

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is Google has multiple data centers like

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this all across the world this was the

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second major one that they built now a

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lot of that data is in theory mirrored

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by a data center that's outside of Provo

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Utah by the NSA called the Bumble high

709
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vo right if you look at that it's called

710
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the NSA Utah data center it's shaped

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kind of like a gigantic banana yes we

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have no idea what's going on in there

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00:35:39,250 --> 00:35:37,340
because they're obviously a little bit

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on the secretive side but if you think

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00:35:43,810 --> 00:35:41,420
about it that bumble hive one and if you

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look at downtown Provo Utah and you

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00:35:47,050 --> 00:35:45,620
scroll around until you find a gigantic

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00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:47,060
series of buildings that look like a

719
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banana that you know you've found it but

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that one should be able to store

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multiple things the size of the Google

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Data Center which is just just

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mind-boggling how many how many

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individual servers are racked up in in

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one of these buildings so if there's

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let's say that the buildings four

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storeys tall I tried to do the math on

728
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this at one point you've got four

729
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stories tall let's say one of those

730
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stories is just you know maintenance to

731
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being pipes for all the water coming

732
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through to keep it cool so three stories

733
00:36:31,650 --> 00:36:27,650
the length of multiple football fields

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each rack so each one single you know

735
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foot to head height rack stores you know

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00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:38,900
let's say 12 rack servers in them and

737
00:36:45,220 --> 00:36:42,410
then so that's 12 servers per the size

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of a man so multiply the size of a man

739
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times however many men you can fit in

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multiple football fields long times

741
00:36:54,340 --> 00:36:52,340
three stories tall you've got you know

742
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thousands and thousands and thousands of

743
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servers at a bare minimum so I'm looking

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00:37:02,730 --> 00:36:59,660
at it here the the middle building of

745
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the main complex that middle building is

746
00:37:06,950 --> 00:37:05,960
six stories tall the second half of it

747
00:37:10,670 --> 00:37:06,960
is four stories

748
00:37:12,140 --> 00:37:10,680
all right there and then so you can see

749
00:37:14,540 --> 00:37:12,150
it didn't count it I'm looking at it

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00:37:16,730 --> 00:37:14,550
here in Street View and then the

751
00:37:19,609 --> 00:37:16,740
building behind it the one with all the

752
00:37:21,290 --> 00:37:19,619
cooling towers on it let me go back up

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00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:21,300
to a satellite view god this is just

754
00:37:23,810 --> 00:37:22,170
crazy

755
00:37:24,950 --> 00:37:23,820
it is it's insane and it kind of

756
00:37:26,359 --> 00:37:24,960
dovetails and what we're gonna talk

757
00:37:28,609 --> 00:37:26,369
about a little bit later tonight but the

758
00:37:31,940 --> 00:37:28,619
amount of data that's that can be stored

759
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:31,950
there you should be able to fit all of

760
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:33,810
those books that Google scanned and

761
00:37:40,010 --> 00:37:36,960
stored in a very tiny fraction of this

762
00:37:41,990 --> 00:37:40,020
data center why very small like not

763
00:37:44,540 --> 00:37:42,000
necessarily just like a closet but the

764
00:37:46,310 --> 00:37:44,550
equivalent of a closet yeah it's a very

765
00:37:50,599 --> 00:37:46,320
small corner and there's one two three

766
00:37:52,609 --> 00:37:50,609
four five six seven ten ten cooling

767
00:37:55,609 --> 00:37:52,619
towers on the end of this building yeah

768
00:37:59,060 --> 00:37:55,619
yeah so that's it it's a it's eight

769
00:38:01,400 --> 00:37:59,070
stories tall the front half of it is is

770
00:38:03,770 --> 00:38:01,410
got a four-story chunk that goes all the

771
00:38:06,140 --> 00:38:03,780
way down the front and then it's another

772
00:38:08,170 --> 00:38:06,150
four storeys underneath it but yet look

773
00:38:11,329 --> 00:38:08,180
at these air conditioners holy crap

774
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:11,339
exactly and it's fascinating so I don't

775
00:38:14,750 --> 00:38:12,810
know if you heard about the Oregon fires

776
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:14,760
that were happening here recently yeah

777
00:38:18,710 --> 00:38:16,890
but the Oregon fires actually came in

778
00:38:21,589 --> 00:38:18,720
with Jib within just a few miles of this

779
00:38:23,690 --> 00:38:21,599
data center and at one point someone had

780
00:38:25,910 --> 00:38:23,700
a webcam pointed out across the river

781
00:38:27,950 --> 00:38:25,920
basically looking at the data center we

782
00:38:31,310 --> 00:38:27,960
were all just waiting for it to catch on

783
00:38:34,010 --> 00:38:31,320
fire no that you know what they probably

784
00:38:35,870 --> 00:38:34,020
have their own fire department right you

785
00:38:37,430 --> 00:38:35,880
know you'd hope so with the amount of

786
00:38:39,230 --> 00:38:37,440
money that they've put into that you

787
00:38:40,849 --> 00:38:39,240
would seriously hope so well and the

788
00:38:42,410 --> 00:38:40,859
other thing is there's a lot of dirt

789
00:38:44,390 --> 00:38:42,420
around this thing too it looks like

790
00:38:48,650 --> 00:38:44,400
they've cleared out all anything that

791
00:38:52,910 --> 00:38:48,660
could burn yeah is is gone man look at

792
00:38:54,410 --> 00:38:52,920
the powder pure I like these names of

793
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:54,420
these buildings that's pretty cool but

794
00:38:59,240 --> 00:38:55,890
there it is Google Data Center

795
00:39:02,170 --> 00:38:59,250
incredible yes subject Oh - yeah and and

796
00:39:07,190 --> 00:39:02,180
to think about that for them to dump and

797
00:39:09,829 --> 00:39:07,200
lose a half a billion dollars right 500

798
00:39:13,910 --> 00:39:09,839
million bucks that they spent they

799
00:39:16,250 --> 00:39:13,920
scanned all the way - well they

800
00:39:19,250 --> 00:39:16,260
basically shut it down in about 2014 but

801
00:39:20,810 --> 00:39:19,260
let's call it 2012 they started in 2002

802
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:20,820
2003 so

803
00:39:26,300 --> 00:39:22,530
spent nine or ten years on this project

804
00:39:28,190 --> 00:39:26,310
they got 25 million books in remember

805
00:39:30,290 --> 00:39:28,200
University of Michigan said that it was

806
00:39:33,110 --> 00:39:30,300
gonna take a thousand years to do 7

807
00:39:35,060 --> 00:39:33,120
million books yeah and which actually

808
00:39:38,780 --> 00:39:35,070
sounds pretty reasonable to me

809
00:39:41,720 --> 00:39:38,790
but to get 25 million books done and

810
00:39:42,710 --> 00:39:41,730
their goal was to get all 129 million on

811
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:42,720
the face of the earth

812
00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:45,810
eventually scanned it they could have

813
00:39:49,250 --> 00:39:47,250
actually pulled it off

814
00:39:51,410 --> 00:39:49,260
that could have man they absolutely

815
00:39:54,290 --> 00:39:51,420
could have and what boggles my mind is

816
00:39:57,140 --> 00:39:54,300
that as massive as that project is it is

817
00:39:58,940 --> 00:39:57,150
a tiny drop in an enormous bucket of

818
00:40:02,000 --> 00:39:58,950
data that Google has collected and

819
00:40:05,810 --> 00:40:02,010
stores forever and see Andy and here's

820
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:05,820
the other if there's a good side to the

821
00:40:13,910 --> 00:40:09,210
Google project it's it's this one a lot

822
00:40:16,100 --> 00:40:13,920
of books a lot the majority like 95 99 %

823
00:40:18,890 --> 00:40:16,110
of books are never read they sit on

824
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:18,900
shelves forever nobody knows who what

825
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:21,930
when they they don't know right but if

826
00:40:26,690 --> 00:40:24,810
you can turn around and have access to

827
00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:26,700
those books where you can do search

828
00:40:31,730 --> 00:40:29,730
terms that now you are have you have

829
00:40:35,060 --> 00:40:31,740
access to books that they would have

830
00:40:37,580 --> 00:40:35,070
never been read right but now they will

831
00:40:39,650 --> 00:40:37,590
never be read that's the crazy part

832
00:40:41,990 --> 00:40:39,660
about this only these that isn't it

833
00:40:45,260 --> 00:40:42,000
yeah because money came into play yeah

834
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:45,270
yeah it's it it said I I have very mixed

835
00:40:49,910 --> 00:40:47,130
feelings because I personally think that

836
00:40:52,580 --> 00:40:49,920
project is amazing for all the reasons

837
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:52,590
that you stated and me and Google I've

838
00:40:58,340 --> 00:40:55,410
got some mixed feelings about Google and

839
00:41:00,380 --> 00:40:58,350
surveillance personally you do but just

840
00:41:04,130 --> 00:41:00,390
the same that project was it was a truly

841
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:04,140
impressive one and also you know Amazon

842
00:41:08,690 --> 00:41:06,930
they Amazon had said once that they were

843
00:41:12,620 --> 00:41:08,700
gonna digitize everything in the world

844
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:12,630
right so so why were they upset because

845
00:41:18,890 --> 00:41:15,690
Google was possibly gonna beat them to

846
00:41:20,780 --> 00:41:18,900
it you know why shouldn't they just get

847
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:20,790
along and get this project done and

848
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:23,010
figure out a way to work together on

849
00:41:27,530 --> 00:41:25,050
this you know that's one thing I've

850
00:41:29,030 --> 00:41:27,540
learned over the years it's that the the

851
00:41:31,070 --> 00:41:29,040
mega billionaires that run these

852
00:41:33,310 --> 00:41:31,080
companies they don't get along as well

853
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:33,320
as you think the mega billionaires would

854
00:41:38,380 --> 00:41:35,450
and they they tend to compete with each

855
00:41:40,330 --> 00:41:38,390
other rather intensely that's one thing

856
00:41:43,900 --> 00:41:40,340
I've noticed before we move along to the

857
00:41:47,980 --> 00:41:43,910
Las Vegas shooter I remember about a

858
00:41:51,340 --> 00:41:47,990
year ago you decided to to revolt and do

859
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:51,350
your own little tea party and you walked

860
00:41:56,410 --> 00:41:54,410
away from Facebook and also I think it

861
00:41:59,560 --> 00:41:56,420
was Twitter that tried to verify your

862
00:42:01,450 --> 00:41:59,570
account and you turn that down everybody

863
00:42:03,780 --> 00:42:01,460
wants to be verified on Twitter they all

864
00:42:06,580 --> 00:42:03,790
want that blue checkmark I don't have it

865
00:42:08,890 --> 00:42:06,590
yeah I know I turn that down I turned

866
00:42:10,660 --> 00:42:08,900
that down stat they wanted a lot of

867
00:42:14,050 --> 00:42:10,670
personal information from me in order to

868
00:42:16,510 --> 00:42:14,060
get verified and I I'm a paranoid guy

869
00:42:18,430 --> 00:42:16,520
you know I I don't technically sit here

870
00:42:20,020 --> 00:42:18,440
with the tinfoil hat in my head but you

871
00:42:22,540 --> 00:42:20,030
know I think a lot of people think I do

872
00:42:24,430 --> 00:42:22,550
so I man when when Twitter wanted a lot

873
00:42:26,590 --> 00:42:24,440
of personal information from me in order

874
00:42:29,470 --> 00:42:26,600
to verify my data and get the check mark

875
00:42:31,030 --> 00:42:29,480
I just told them no when they was on my

876
00:42:34,660 --> 00:42:31,040
Facebook account and everything what did

877
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:34,670
they want um let's see they wanted they

878
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:36,290
had to they had to have my phone number

879
00:42:41,590 --> 00:42:39,170
my address I believe there was something

880
00:42:43,090 --> 00:42:41,600
to do with like address history or work

881
00:42:44,470 --> 00:42:43,100
history or something that came up into

882
00:42:46,900 --> 00:42:44,480
it as well and it just immediately

883
00:42:48,970 --> 00:42:46,910
started feeling creepy to me and so I

884
00:42:50,740 --> 00:42:48,980
decided you know there's enough people

885
00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:50,750
following me anyway I'm alright I'm

886
00:42:53,410 --> 00:42:52,250
alright I'm good without the blue

887
00:42:55,330 --> 00:42:53,420
checkmark you go ahead and keep that

888
00:42:57,070 --> 00:42:55,340
Twitter you can verify me later if you

889
00:42:58,720 --> 00:42:57,080
want I know that their their head

890
00:43:01,240 --> 00:42:58,730
haunches have all met me and know me in

891
00:43:04,710 --> 00:43:01,250
person so if they want to give me the

892
00:43:07,450 --> 00:43:04,720
checkmark they can and well Facebook

893
00:43:10,270 --> 00:43:07,460
contacted us for verification too as

894
00:43:13,330 --> 00:43:10,280
well and we could have gone without it

895
00:43:15,460 --> 00:43:13,340
and had an unverified page but there

896
00:43:17,470 --> 00:43:15,470
were some limits to the Facebook page

897
00:43:20,830 --> 00:43:17,480
that you know they were gonna choke us

898
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:20,840
back and so they wanted and I thought it

899
00:43:27,090 --> 00:43:23,530
was pretty intrusive as well they wanted

900
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:27,100
copies of our business licenses right

901
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:30,170
wow that's kind of crazy they wanted

902
00:43:36,460 --> 00:43:32,930
that they wanted all of the legal

903
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:36,470
addresses that they had to cross-check

904
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:41,450
those with the business licenses copies

905
00:43:46,500 --> 00:43:45,650
of driver's licenses right and I thought

906
00:43:49,050 --> 00:43:46,510
man that's

907
00:43:52,230 --> 00:43:49,060
you know that's feeling a little funky

908
00:43:54,540 --> 00:43:52,240
feels weird yeah and I went ahead and

909
00:43:58,170 --> 00:43:54,550
did it and so you know big deal big

910
00:44:00,750 --> 00:43:58,180
hoo-ha we got we got over better they

911
00:44:04,140 --> 00:44:00,760
know where you live man yeah yeah it's

912
00:44:06,780 --> 00:44:04,150
funny the the way that Twitter verifies

913
00:44:08,460 --> 00:44:06,790
accounts you know I I had no idea that

914
00:44:10,590 --> 00:44:08,470
they were gonna go into work history and

915
00:44:12,390 --> 00:44:10,600
and stuff like that and it kind of makes

916
00:44:15,540 --> 00:44:12,400
sense I mean if you think about it from

917
00:44:17,610 --> 00:44:15,550
their standpoint Twitter Facebook Google

918
00:44:19,590 --> 00:44:17,620
all of them their business is collecting

919
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:19,600
and selling data that's what they do if

920
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:21,850
they can't collect and sell more data

921
00:44:25,260 --> 00:44:23,650
than their business doesn't grow and

922
00:44:26,940 --> 00:44:25,270
they don't earn more profits for their

923
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:26,950
shareholders and their shareholders get

924
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:29,770
grumpy so they have to find ways to

925
00:44:34,830 --> 00:44:32,050
collect as much data as possible to

926
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:34,840
store it as long as possible and so that

927
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:36,850
they can sell it to others or utilize it

928
00:44:41,130 --> 00:44:38,530
to sell out of space I mean it's it's

929
00:44:43,290 --> 00:44:41,140
their job which is a weird job it's a

930
00:44:43,710 --> 00:44:43,300
really weird job to have but it is their

931
00:44:46,250 --> 00:44:43,720
job

932
00:44:49,380 --> 00:44:46,260
i I don't even know what the

933
00:44:52,290 --> 00:44:49,390
verification process is who's you know

934
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:52,300
what what determines somebody that needs

935
00:44:56,100 --> 00:44:53,890
to be verified it's certainly not based

936
00:44:57,390 --> 00:44:56,110
on followers I've seen you know I've

937
00:44:59,910 --> 00:44:57,400
seen people with a quarter of a million

938
00:45:02,370 --> 00:44:59,920
followers and they are following two

939
00:45:05,310 --> 00:45:02,380
hundred and fifty obviously that's an

940
00:45:07,260 --> 00:45:05,320
influential person not verified then

941
00:45:09,570 --> 00:45:07,270
I'll see somebody with three thousand or

942
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:09,580
two thousand followers but they're

943
00:45:15,180 --> 00:45:12,490
verified it's just it doesn't I can't

944
00:45:17,430 --> 00:45:15,190
make a rhyme rhyme no reason out of it

945
00:45:20,790 --> 00:45:17,440
but but they came after you because you

946
00:45:23,010 --> 00:45:20,800
are somebody I think I was probably

947
00:45:24,300 --> 00:45:23,020
mouthing off about Twitter at one point

948
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:24,310
and I caught a lot of their attention

949
00:45:29,490 --> 00:45:27,130
and so you know how it goes you get on

950
00:45:33,060 --> 00:45:29,500
the radar right what you would think you

951
00:45:36,630 --> 00:45:33,070
know Jack Dorsey right CEO he follows me

952
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:36,640
I follow jack he follows like a thousand

953
00:45:40,830 --> 00:45:38,530
people in the world I'm one of them but

954
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:40,840
don't I think you'd be verified you

955
00:45:45,330 --> 00:45:43,690
would think right yeah you deserve that

956
00:45:47,850 --> 00:45:45,340
blue checkmark my friend I've never

957
00:45:51,210 --> 00:45:47,860
asked I've never brought it up I've

958
00:45:53,940 --> 00:45:51,220
often thought that you know once you

959
00:45:55,860 --> 00:45:53,950
know I choose something that they're

960
00:45:58,110 --> 00:45:55,870
looking for then they'll you know

961
00:45:59,300 --> 00:45:58,120
they'll they'll notify me but yeah yeah

962
00:46:01,600 --> 00:45:59,310
I just find it I don't know

963
00:46:05,230 --> 00:46:01,610
I don't know what what the criteria is

964
00:46:08,210 --> 00:46:05,240
now what I wanted to do is we get into

965
00:46:11,530 --> 00:46:08,220
the Las Vegas shooter and hacking of the

966
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:11,540
Las Vegas shooter when it comes to

967
00:46:17,570 --> 00:46:15,090
looking into the background of anybody

968
00:46:20,990 --> 00:46:17,580
and I just mean anybody you can pick a

969
00:46:23,060 --> 00:46:21,000
name you know at random how much

970
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:23,070
information is out there on every

971
00:46:28,730 --> 00:46:26,130
citizen of the United States so there's

972
00:46:30,650 --> 00:46:28,740
there's multiple tiers to that so like

973
00:46:32,540 --> 00:46:30,660
let's let's take Jimmy Church for is in

974
00:46:34,700 --> 00:46:32,550
it for an example you know you are a

975
00:46:36,770 --> 00:46:34,710
very public person right you and I we

976
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:36,780
spend our lives being fairly public so

977
00:46:40,940 --> 00:46:38,610
there's a lot probably known in the

978
00:46:44,060 --> 00:46:40,950
public about both you and I or social

979
00:46:45,830 --> 00:46:44,070
media and and everything else at so if

980
00:46:47,810 --> 00:46:45,840
you are just simply trying to find

981
00:46:49,730 --> 00:46:47,820
public information on a person there's

982
00:46:52,820 --> 00:46:49,740
certain things that you can get

983
00:46:54,650 --> 00:46:52,830
relatively easy all the places you

984
00:46:57,650 --> 00:46:54,660
currently live and everywhere that you

985
00:47:00,220 --> 00:46:57,660
used to live that is all in the public

986
00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:00,230
that is very easy to track down and find

987
00:47:04,970 --> 00:47:02,250
sometimes you need to have you know

988
00:47:06,500 --> 00:47:04,980
access to certain online services to do

989
00:47:08,390 --> 00:47:06,510
it which are usually paid services

990
00:47:10,820 --> 00:47:08,400
that's you know private detectives and

991
00:47:13,720 --> 00:47:10,830
law enforcement agencies often subscribe

992
00:47:16,550 --> 00:47:13,730
to but all that information is available

993
00:47:17,720 --> 00:47:16,560
now where it gets a little bit more

994
00:47:20,330 --> 00:47:17,730
interesting and a little bit more

995
00:47:22,430 --> 00:47:20,340
invasive is the information that is

996
00:47:25,430 --> 00:47:22,440
stored without you necessarily knowing

997
00:47:27,170 --> 00:47:25,440
it so information that that various

998
00:47:29,770 --> 00:47:27,180
companies and organizations have on

999
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:29,780
Jimmy church right now include

1000
00:47:35,210 --> 00:47:32,490
everywhere you've ever walked or driven

1001
00:47:37,850 --> 00:47:35,220
with a cell phone that information is

1002
00:47:39,500 --> 00:47:37,860
stored basically in perpetuity so long

1003
00:47:41,330 --> 00:47:39,510
as a fire doesn't take out the Google

1004
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:41,340
Data Center or something along those

1005
00:47:45,710 --> 00:47:43,530
lines for t-mobile Verizon or whatever

1006
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:45,720
cell phone carrier as long as that data

1007
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:47,850
center stays intact that data exists

1008
00:47:51,890 --> 00:47:50,010
forever which means every time you went

1009
00:47:53,720 --> 00:47:51,900
down to in-and-out burger or to the

1010
00:47:55,940 --> 00:47:53,730
ice-cream joint they know it they know

1011
00:47:58,220 --> 00:47:55,950
what time roughly you did it and and

1012
00:47:59,780 --> 00:47:58,230
they can watch the route you take doing

1013
00:48:03,470 --> 00:47:59,790
that sort of thing which is a little bit

1014
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:03,480
crazy and weird also all of your emails

1015
00:48:10,790 --> 00:48:08,010
if you use a public email service yahoo

1016
00:48:12,290 --> 00:48:10,800
mail especially there was a there isn't

1017
00:48:12,859 --> 00:48:12,300
it actually a really interesting one

1018
00:48:14,569 --> 00:48:12,869
yeah

1019
00:48:16,609 --> 00:48:14,579
who about a year ago it came out that

1020
00:48:19,819 --> 00:48:16,619
Yahoo actually had two years prior

1021
00:48:22,489 --> 00:48:19,829
struck a deal with the NSA to give NSA

1022
00:48:26,180 --> 00:48:22,499
full searching access to the entirety of

1023
00:48:28,130 --> 00:48:26,190
all of yahoo email so for two years if

1024
00:48:31,930 --> 00:48:28,140
you were using yahoo email you're your

1025
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:31,940
full email back catalog your full inbox

1026
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:34,890
was being given over to the federal

1027
00:48:40,099 --> 00:48:36,890
government without you even knowing it

1028
00:48:42,650 --> 00:48:40,109
and that that probably holds true for

1029
00:48:45,230 --> 00:48:42,660
the vast majority of very large public

1030
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:45,240
email services Gmail and - like are you

1031
00:48:52,819 --> 00:48:47,490
saying are you saying are you suggesting

1032
00:48:57,289 --> 00:48:52,829
that Gmail and the entirety of all

1033
00:48:59,839 --> 00:48:57,299
messages that were sent and received is

1034
00:49:03,230 --> 00:48:59,849
stored by the government the government

1035
00:49:06,380 --> 00:49:03,240
has access to that here's what I will

1036
00:49:09,519 --> 00:49:06,390
say um if you are the United States

1037
00:49:13,069 --> 00:49:09,529
government and you had to pick just one

1038
00:49:16,700 --> 00:49:13,079
email provider to snoop on would it be

1039
00:49:19,670 --> 00:49:16,710
Yahoo no of course no no it would not be

1040
00:49:21,380 --> 00:49:19,680
Yahoo right you'd go after Gmail so in

1041
00:49:26,569 --> 00:49:21,390
fact and I actually have some stats on

1042
00:49:29,539 --> 00:49:26,579
this here's so yeah Gmail is used in

1043
00:49:32,470 --> 00:49:29,549
America alone by over there's over a

1044
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:32,480
billion American Gmail accounts

1045
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:38,130
Americans at work alone over 25% of

1046
00:49:41,450 --> 00:49:39,690
Americans while they're at work are

1047
00:49:43,700 --> 00:49:41,460
using Gmail which means that the vast

1048
00:49:47,089 --> 00:49:43,710
majority of all communication that's

1049
00:49:49,849 --> 00:49:47,099
going on digitally inside America routes

1050
00:49:51,650 --> 00:49:49,859
through Gmail if you were the United

1051
00:49:54,140 --> 00:49:51,660
States government and you were going

1052
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:54,150
after even just one email provider it

1053
00:49:59,390 --> 00:49:56,450
wouldn't be Yahoo which tells me that

1054
00:50:01,999 --> 00:49:59,400
they they have access to Gmail as well

1055
00:50:03,739 --> 00:50:02,009
III know that if I were in charge of

1056
00:50:06,470 --> 00:50:03,749
whatever program within the federal

1057
00:50:09,170 --> 00:50:06,480
government it is that does this and the

1058
00:50:10,549 --> 00:50:09,180
only one I went after was Yahoo I would

1059
00:50:14,599 --> 00:50:10,559
probably get a very bad performance

1060
00:50:17,390 --> 00:50:14,609
review in my job so so realistically

1061
00:50:19,249 --> 00:50:17,400
that is in all likelihood you simply

1062
00:50:22,309 --> 00:50:19,259
have to assume that they have access to

1063
00:50:23,720 --> 00:50:22,319
it the other side of it is when you

1064
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:23,730
start to look at the multiple data

1065
00:50:25,799 --> 00:50:24,690
centers that the United States

1066
00:50:28,650 --> 00:50:25,809
government has

1067
00:50:31,499 --> 00:50:28,660
sighs of them it wouldn't necessarily

1068
00:50:34,259 --> 00:50:31,509
make sense for those to exist if they

1069
00:50:36,569 --> 00:50:34,269
didn't have direct access to Google's

1070
00:50:39,329 --> 00:50:36,579
data and weren't at least for the most

1071
00:50:41,789 --> 00:50:39,339
part mirroring that data it's the the

1072
00:50:44,009 --> 00:50:41,799
bumble hive in Utah alone should be able

1073
00:50:46,709 --> 00:50:44,019
to mirror the vast majority of what

1074
00:50:49,380 --> 00:50:46,719
Google has has Ark items at archived and

1075
00:50:51,989 --> 00:50:49,390
stored so it wouldn't have made sense to

1076
00:50:54,809 --> 00:50:51,999
spend the how whatever billions of

1077
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:54,819
dollars they spent building that if they

1078
00:51:00,349 --> 00:50:57,130
didn't have access to it now what about

1079
00:51:02,849 --> 00:51:00,359
private email servers like what I have

1080
00:51:03,929 --> 00:51:02,859
it gets a little bit harder if they if

1081
00:51:06,449 --> 00:51:03,939
you've got a private email server

1082
00:51:08,609 --> 00:51:06,459
sitting on your own server somewhere in

1083
00:51:10,589 --> 00:51:08,619
your own domain they got to come after

1084
00:51:12,179 --> 00:51:10,599
you specifically that means that they

1085
00:51:14,249 --> 00:51:12,189
have to think that Jimmy Church is

1086
00:51:16,579 --> 00:51:14,259
important enough to get access to Jimmy

1087
00:51:19,729 --> 00:51:16,589
church's email and that takes work

1088
00:51:22,199 --> 00:51:19,739
assuming your server is fairly Wells

1089
00:51:24,329 --> 00:51:22,209
up-to-date as most of the patch is

1090
00:51:27,660 --> 00:51:24,339
applied and it's fairly well locked down

1091
00:51:29,670 --> 00:51:27,670
it is semi secure right there really is

1092
00:51:31,049 --> 00:51:29,680
no such thing as fully secure email

1093
00:51:34,769 --> 00:51:31,059
email was never designed to be

1094
00:51:37,489 --> 00:51:34,779
extraordinarily tight security wise so

1095
00:51:40,319 --> 00:51:37,499
there's just there's just no foolproof

1096
00:51:42,029 --> 00:51:40,329
super secure internet service there's a

1097
00:51:44,309 --> 00:51:42,039
couple out there one one called

1098
00:51:46,859 --> 00:51:44,319
protonmail and a few others that do a

1099
00:51:49,169 --> 00:51:46,869
little better job than most but there

1100
00:51:51,630 --> 00:51:49,179
really is no fully secure system but if

1101
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:51,640
you are using your own like I use my own

1102
00:51:56,789 --> 00:51:54,130
they have to come after me specifically

1103
00:51:58,729 --> 00:51:56,799
if you're using Gmail and they go after

1104
00:52:01,229 --> 00:51:58,739
one person's Gmail they've got

1105
00:52:02,969 --> 00:52:01,239
everyone's Gmail account it's just a

1106
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:02,979
much easier thing for them to do it's

1107
00:52:08,279 --> 00:52:05,890
better bang for their buck yeah so

1108
00:52:10,859 --> 00:52:08,289
that's what we do we've got our own

1109
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:10,869
servers for the show we've got our own

1110
00:52:18,150 --> 00:52:14,890
email servers everything is is as as

1111
00:52:21,209 --> 00:52:18,160
tight as we can get it and in for for

1112
00:52:25,849 --> 00:52:21,219
obvious reasons but also I just want to

1113
00:52:29,819 --> 00:52:25,859
control you know I did yeah I don't like

1114
00:52:32,839 --> 00:52:29,829
the thought of the cloud the cloud just

1115
00:52:35,759 --> 00:52:32,849
messes with me and the more that you

1116
00:52:38,219 --> 00:52:35,769
release I don't store any data on the

1117
00:52:39,370 --> 00:52:38,229
cloud you know you know what I store in

1118
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:39,380
the cloud the the

1119
00:52:43,930 --> 00:52:41,450
something I can't stop from storing on

1120
00:52:46,420 --> 00:52:43,940
the cloud like my iPhone yeah you're

1121
00:52:50,650 --> 00:52:46,430
right that that bothers me that that is

1122
00:52:53,170 --> 00:52:50,660
constantly uploading every time I charge

1123
00:52:57,910 --> 00:52:53,180
it and it's that that that just bothers

1124
00:52:58,480 --> 00:52:57,920
me I try to yeah I offload this is what

1125
00:53:00,220 --> 00:52:58,490
I do

1126
00:53:03,339 --> 00:53:00,230
I hope that you're gonna say it's a good

1127
00:53:06,940 --> 00:53:03,349
idea but I offload all of my images and

1128
00:53:09,940 --> 00:53:06,950
video from my iphone onto my own hard

1129
00:53:13,420 --> 00:53:09,950
drives and I delete it off of my iPhone

1130
00:53:15,490 --> 00:53:13,430
so it's not going to the cloud you know

1131
00:53:17,710 --> 00:53:15,500
the other you know I I have seen so many

1132
00:53:19,690 --> 00:53:17,720
people complain about that man I can't

1133
00:53:21,549 --> 00:53:19,700
get my stuff off the cloud and it's -

1134
00:53:24,460 --> 00:53:21,559
you know and now now I'm kind of stuck

1135
00:53:29,950 --> 00:53:24,470
and anybody help me here you know and

1136
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:29,960
that I I wish that the old days would

1137
00:53:36,789 --> 00:53:35,210
stay put in that right story you become

1138
00:53:38,349 --> 00:53:36,799
a curmudgeon you're yelling at the kids

1139
00:53:41,079 --> 00:53:38,359
to get off your lawn like well yeah I

1140
00:53:43,539 --> 00:53:41,089
know but but worrying about harddrive

1141
00:53:46,630 --> 00:53:43,549
space is a good thing it is you know

1142
00:53:48,940 --> 00:53:46,640
worrying about worrying about your your

1143
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:48,950
cloud passwords because you screwed up

1144
00:53:51,940 --> 00:53:50,930
or a data center that just burned out or

1145
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:51,950
whatever it is

1146
00:53:56,980 --> 00:53:53,930
yes you know I would rather have my

1147
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:56,990
stuff here and if I blow it then it's my

1148
00:53:59,890 --> 00:53:57,650
fault

1149
00:54:01,269 --> 00:53:59,900
right you know this kind of this kind of

1150
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:01,279
brings up an interesting thing there's a

1151
00:54:05,170 --> 00:54:03,650
there's a quote from a very wise man a

1152
00:54:07,690 --> 00:54:05,180
man named Richard Stallman who's kind of

1153
00:54:09,609 --> 00:54:07,700
one of the the legendaries within the

1154
00:54:11,950 --> 00:54:09,619
free software and open-source movements

1155
00:54:13,569 --> 00:54:11,960
he's quoted often as saying there is no

1156
00:54:15,099 --> 00:54:13,579
such thing as the cloud there's just

1157
00:54:17,620 --> 00:54:15,109
somebody else's computer

1158
00:54:19,329 --> 00:54:17,630
if you ol upload something and you think

1159
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:19,339
you're uploading it to the cloud all

1160
00:54:23,289 --> 00:54:21,170
that means is you're sending it to

1161
00:54:25,839 --> 00:54:23,299
someone else's computer and maybe a big

1162
00:54:27,309 --> 00:54:25,849
server maybe be a rack of servers but

1163
00:54:29,470 --> 00:54:27,319
it's someone else's computer that

1164
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:29,480
someone else has full control over and

1165
00:54:37,749 --> 00:54:31,210
you have no control

1166
00:54:40,509 --> 00:54:37,759
zero-zero that's it I want I have here

1167
00:54:44,470 --> 00:54:40,519
in the bunker I've got two two terabyte

1168
00:54:47,559 --> 00:54:44,480
backup drives right I've got two 500

1169
00:54:49,180 --> 00:54:47,569
gigabyte a little bit older not by much

1170
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:49,190
by the way

1171
00:54:56,250 --> 00:54:53,090
backup drives that are full but but I'm

1172
00:55:00,430 --> 00:54:56,260
constantly dumping my data over to there

1173
00:55:05,950 --> 00:55:00,440
all of I've got one two three I have

1174
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:05,960
three cloud backup accounts that I've

1175
00:55:11,860 --> 00:55:09,050
never used just don't use them

1176
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:11,870
I've never uploaded to the cloud and

1177
00:55:17,500 --> 00:55:14,690
that's it man if you're gonna call me if

1178
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:17,510
one Dukes gonna call me a Luddite hey

1179
00:55:23,770 --> 00:55:20,930
man if I count count me as a as a proud

1180
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:23,780
Luddite member I carry the card no doubt

1181
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:24,290
about it

1182
00:55:27,820 --> 00:55:26,450
now we're gonna head towards a break

1183
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:27,830
right here when we come back we're gonna

1184
00:55:34,330 --> 00:55:30,890
go feet first into this Steven paddock

1185
00:55:38,290 --> 00:55:34,340
Las Vegas shooter situation but why is

1186
00:55:41,590 --> 00:55:38,300
it and you can help me set up for where

1187
00:55:43,720 --> 00:55:41,600
we're gonna go why is it that we don't

1188
00:55:45,700 --> 00:55:43,730
have any information are they actually

1189
00:55:48,340 --> 00:55:45,710
struggling I'm trying to find data on

1190
00:55:50,860 --> 00:55:48,350
this guy now there is an absolutely

1191
00:55:52,690 --> 00:55:50,870
mammoth amount of data on my we don't

1192
00:55:54,610 --> 00:55:52,700
have the data or the least the data is

1193
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:54,620
in public that's that's the confusing

1194
00:56:00,880 --> 00:55:57,650
part and one last thing and then we'll

1195
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:00,890
hit the brake I only well there's been

1196
00:56:07,090 --> 00:56:04,130
more now but I only found two

1197
00:56:09,340 --> 00:56:07,100
photographs of this guy on the web he's

1198
00:56:11,140 --> 00:56:09,350
got to be the most least photographed

1199
00:56:12,930 --> 00:56:11,150
person ever in the history of the known

1200
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:12,940
universe I find that very interesting

1201
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:15,290
considering he spends all of his time in

1202
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:16,490
the most photographed and videotaped

1203
00:56:20,260 --> 00:56:18,530
place on earth and apparently has

1204
00:56:23,140 --> 00:56:20,270
multiple cell phones yeah it's a little

1205
00:56:25,930 --> 00:56:23,150
weird yeah bingo our guest tonight Brian

1206
00:56:28,620 --> 00:56:25,940
lund dude we are gonna do it all tonight

1207
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:28,630
this is the hacking of the Las Vegas

1208
00:56:32,500 --> 00:56:30,890
shooters special event

1209
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:32,510
we'll be right back more with Brian

1210
00:57:00,940 --> 00:56:34,850
right after this stay with us

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01:00:39,900 --> 01:00:37,900
all right welcome back pay the black I'm

1276
01:00:42,269 --> 01:00:39,910
your host Jimmy Church follow me on

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01:00:44,999 --> 01:00:42,279
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you can follow Brian Lundy get Brian

1279
01:00:50,479 --> 01:00:47,769
London it's right there he's always

1280
01:00:52,979 --> 01:00:50,489
hanging out with sandbox by the way and

1281
01:00:55,859 --> 01:00:52,989
we're talking about the the Las Vegas

1282
01:00:57,929 --> 01:00:55,869
shooter the hacking of and the digital

1283
01:01:00,660 --> 01:00:57,939
stream of information that is out there

1284
01:01:03,420 --> 01:01:00,670
on this guy but we don't know anything

1285
01:01:08,039 --> 01:01:03,430
so my first question out of the gate

1286
01:01:10,170 --> 01:01:08,049
Brian is here we have a situation that

1287
01:01:12,739 --> 01:01:10,180
the authorities are trying to tell us

1288
01:01:14,339 --> 01:01:12,749
it's one shooter he killed himself

1289
01:01:18,390 --> 01:01:14,349
open-and-shut case

1290
01:01:21,809 --> 01:01:18,400
right every day the story has changed

1291
01:01:24,420 --> 01:01:21,819
look why why can't they get it together

1292
01:01:27,569 --> 01:01:24,430
I mean this is I want your opinion on

1293
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:27,579
this why can't they just give us a

1294
01:01:32,039 --> 01:01:29,890
timeline and tell us how it happened how

1295
01:01:34,109 --> 01:01:32,049
many shots were fired when they started

1296
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:34,119
when they stopped and and what the

1297
01:01:38,819 --> 01:01:36,130
motive was why can't why can't we just

1298
01:01:39,959 --> 01:01:38,829
get down to everything all right I think

1299
01:01:41,759 --> 01:01:39,969
that's the question that just about

1300
01:01:43,799 --> 01:01:41,769
everyone seems to be answering asking

1301
01:01:45,839 --> 01:01:43,809
right now and it's a good question I

1302
01:01:47,699 --> 01:01:45,849
mean in a normal a normal case like

1303
01:01:50,370 --> 01:01:47,709
let's say just down the street from my

1304
01:01:52,019 --> 01:01:50,380
house a place that's not overly

1305
01:01:54,059 --> 01:01:52,029
surveilled you know there's a few camera

1306
01:01:56,189 --> 01:01:54,069
rounds or whatnot you'd expect this sort

1307
01:01:58,199 --> 01:01:56,199
of uncertainty you'd expect the police

1308
01:01:59,880 --> 01:01:58,209
to interview a couple of eyewitnesses

1309
01:02:02,099 --> 01:01:59,890
everyone remembers it a little weird

1310
01:02:03,749 --> 01:02:02,109
maybe someone was watching a cop show at

1311
01:02:05,279 --> 01:02:03,759
the time so they heard a couple of

1312
01:02:07,140 --> 01:02:05,289
gunshots come from the TV and then a

1313
01:02:09,870 --> 01:02:07,150
couple of gunshots come from outside and

1314
01:02:13,709 --> 01:02:09,880
you'd expect things to change as they

1315
01:02:17,579 --> 01:02:13,719
get further along here though the

1316
01:02:19,529 --> 01:02:17,589
Mandalay Bay the amount of surveillance

1317
01:02:22,169 --> 01:02:19,539
happening at the Mandalay Bay is

1318
01:02:24,329 --> 01:02:22,179
absolutely off the charts I did some

1319
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:24,339
kind of digging into this to see what

1320
01:02:28,799 --> 01:02:26,170
sort of surveillance they actually have

1321
01:02:31,049 --> 01:02:28,809
what are they what do they know so what

1322
01:02:34,799 --> 01:02:31,059
we got is when the Mandalay Bay opened

1323
01:02:37,589 --> 01:02:34,809
in 1999 the contractor who put together

1324
01:02:40,949 --> 01:02:37,599
a lot of the system said they had 1200

1325
01:02:42,839 --> 01:02:40,959
cameras in the resort and hotel portion

1326
01:02:46,259 --> 01:02:42,849
alone not including the convention

1327
01:02:48,689 --> 01:02:46,269
center that was back in 1999 that was 18

1328
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:48,699
years ago back when things were far less

1329
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:49,010
or

1330
01:02:53,740 --> 01:02:51,530
veiled than now we know that if you go

1331
01:02:55,570 --> 01:02:53,750
further down the strip towards the

1332
01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:55,580
Bellagio so where the Mandalay Bay is at

1333
01:02:59,800 --> 01:02:58,010
it's directly across from McCarran

1334
01:03:03,460 --> 01:02:59,810
International Airport right mm-hmm

1335
01:03:06,220 --> 01:03:03,470
so also a very heavily surveilled thing

1336
01:03:06,490 --> 01:03:06,230
because it's an international airport no

1337
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:06,500
duh

1338
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:08,450
and it's right next door also to the

1339
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:11,210
Luxor as you move towards the Tropicana

1340
01:03:15,190 --> 01:03:13,250
and the New York une hit the Bellagio

1341
01:03:19,930 --> 01:03:15,200
you're talking about thousands of

1342
01:03:22,390 --> 01:03:19,940
cameras pointed outside alone so it's

1343
01:03:24,790 --> 01:03:22,400
not unreasonable to assume that there's

1344
01:03:27,910 --> 01:03:24,800
at least two to three times the initial

1345
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:27,920
what they had back in 1999 there

1346
01:03:31,570 --> 01:03:29,450
nowadays we don't have exact numbers

1347
01:03:32,980 --> 01:03:31,580
because for obvious reasons the the

1348
01:03:34,690 --> 01:03:32,990
hotel doesn't necessarily want us

1349
01:03:36,460 --> 01:03:34,700
knowing exactly how many cameras they've

1350
01:03:38,830 --> 01:03:36,470
got and where they're all located for

1351
01:03:40,870 --> 01:03:38,840
fear of a you know an Ocean's eleven

1352
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:40,880
sort of scenario right right but

1353
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:43,970
thousands and thousands of cameras and

1354
01:03:48,970 --> 01:03:47,330
it's hard to really fathom that when you

1355
01:03:51,700 --> 01:03:48,980
start realizing these cameras in most

1356
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:51,710
cases are fairly broad they're very most

1357
01:03:55,570 --> 01:03:52,730
of them are going to be fairly high

1358
01:03:57,850 --> 01:03:55,580
resolution and hit a very wide angle

1359
01:03:59,650 --> 01:03:57,860
using very wide-angle sort of lens is

1360
01:04:02,920 --> 01:03:59,660
kind of a fisheye look to it so you can

1361
01:04:05,020 --> 01:04:02,930
get as much imagery as possible not all

1362
01:04:08,620 --> 01:04:05,030
of them are going to have audio but many

1363
01:04:12,330 --> 01:04:08,630
of them will have audio which means that

1364
01:04:14,830 --> 01:04:12,340
even if you're up on the 30-plus floor

1365
01:04:16,270 --> 01:04:14,840
you're going to have so many cameras

1366
01:04:19,810 --> 01:04:16,280
that are going to be visible for the

1367
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:19,820
outside as well as the hallway side of

1368
01:04:27,100 --> 01:04:22,490
that room it would be almost impossible

1369
01:04:28,690 --> 01:04:27,110
to not know exactly what's going on from

1370
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:28,700
the outside so if someone breaks out a

1371
01:04:32,790 --> 01:04:30,770
window we should be able to know exactly

1372
01:04:35,470 --> 01:04:32,800
when that happens if someone shoots

1373
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:35,480
gunfire through a door we should be able

1374
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:37,130
to know down to a second when that

1375
01:04:41,230 --> 01:04:39,290
happened because all of this is recorded

1376
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:41,240
this isn't just a live stream where

1377
01:04:45,070 --> 01:04:42,770
there is just a couple of guys who never

1378
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:45,080
blinked looking at thousands of screens

1379
01:04:50,170 --> 01:04:48,050
right this is all recorded and kept long

1380
01:04:53,470 --> 01:04:50,180
term and applied to facial recognition

1381
01:04:55,930 --> 01:04:53,480
technology so that the hotel can use

1382
01:04:57,580 --> 01:04:55,940
that to better serve their guests and to

1383
01:04:58,660 --> 01:04:57,590
kind of you know try and get more money

1384
01:05:02,480 --> 01:04:58,670
out of their guests that's that's their

1385
01:05:04,970 --> 01:05:02,490
job so it is it is baffling how

1386
01:05:08,450 --> 01:05:04,980
how the story has changed really at all

1387
01:05:11,090 --> 01:05:08,460
III guess I would understand it if you

1388
01:05:14,420 --> 01:05:11,100
know within the hour to two hours after

1389
01:05:16,550 --> 01:05:14,430
the event took place if the law

1390
01:05:18,830 --> 01:05:16,560
enforcement simply hadn't collected the

1391
01:05:21,050 --> 01:05:18,840
data yet they hadn't gone down to the

1392
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:21,060
Mandalay Bay Security office and gotten

1393
01:05:25,060 --> 01:05:23,010
full copies of everything yet but when

1394
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:25,070
you're talking about multiple days later

1395
01:05:30,700 --> 01:05:27,930
that raises a lot of red flags for me

1396
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:30,710
and this is such a heavily surveilled

1397
01:05:37,850 --> 01:05:34,650
singular location that not knowing down

1398
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:37,860
to the second when things occurs just

1399
01:05:42,950 --> 01:05:40,650
really can't happen what about a social

1400
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:42,960
media presence what what did he have did

1401
01:05:51,230 --> 01:05:49,050
he have a Facebook page Twitter mantilla

1402
01:05:54,350 --> 01:05:51,240
anything that he did have seems to have

1403
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:54,360
been seems to have been gone I was kind

1404
01:05:57,650 --> 01:05:56,010
of looking through what all I could find

1405
01:06:00,620 --> 01:05:57,660
honestly I could only find a couple

1406
01:06:04,550 --> 01:06:00,630
pictures of the guy it's amazing what

1407
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:04,560
little online presence this guy this

1408
01:06:09,590 --> 01:06:07,410
Steven paddock actually had especially

1409
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:09,600
when it's it's been reported that he had

1410
01:06:15,050 --> 01:06:12,090
multiple cell phones on him and always

1411
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:15,060
had multiple cell phones on him I hey

1412
01:06:20,540 --> 01:06:17,970
you know how many people have multiple

1413
01:06:22,490 --> 01:06:20,550
smartphones on them very very few and

1414
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:22,500
even people with just one smartphone

1415
01:06:26,570 --> 01:06:24,570
well they tend to have at least a few

1416
01:06:29,750 --> 01:06:26,580
pictures of themselves at a cool place

1417
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:29,760
or here's my dinner or something

1418
01:06:35,090 --> 01:06:32,130
I'm not finding much of any of that with

1419
01:06:41,380 --> 01:06:35,100
this which is baffling to me do you

1420
01:06:44,780 --> 01:06:41,390
think it is because they are covering up

1421
01:06:46,730 --> 01:06:44,790
some type of operation that maybe he

1422
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:46,740
could have been an agent maybe he was

1423
01:06:54,380 --> 01:06:51,090
some kind of a ultra that or maybe

1424
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:54,390
undercover maybe maybe he was maybe he

1425
01:06:59,810 --> 01:06:57,210
was FBI maybe he was CIA

1426
01:07:03,050 --> 01:06:59,820
maybe there was something else going on

1427
01:07:06,470 --> 01:07:03,060
and he was part of an operation maybe he

1428
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:06,480
was gun running I don't know I so much

1429
01:07:11,030 --> 01:07:08,730
of it doesn't make sense unless there's

1430
01:07:13,130 --> 01:07:11,040
something additional going on that

1431
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:13,140
requires the government to either

1432
01:07:17,950 --> 01:07:15,890
cover-up something that they did

1433
01:07:20,019 --> 01:07:17,960
or keep things quiet while they

1434
01:07:24,670 --> 01:07:20,029
investigate something bigger right I

1435
01:07:27,130 --> 01:07:24,680
mean it kind of comes down to why why

1436
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:27,140
were there reports of so many people who

1437
01:07:31,450 --> 01:07:29,690
recorded the event or took pictures of

1438
01:07:33,250 --> 01:07:31,460
the event or texted about the event on

1439
01:07:35,980 --> 01:07:33,260
their phones and then gave their phones

1440
01:07:37,569 --> 01:07:35,990
the FBI and then they got when they got

1441
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:37,579
their phones back all of that data was

1442
01:07:41,859 --> 01:07:39,650
erased we've we've gotten so many

1443
01:07:44,259 --> 01:07:41,869
reports of that at this point why why

1444
01:07:47,140 --> 01:07:44,269
would that happen that doesn't normally

1445
01:07:49,180 --> 01:07:47,150
happen you know I've known people who've

1446
01:07:50,620 --> 01:07:49,190
been you know witnesses to crimes before

1447
01:07:52,059 --> 01:07:50,630
and and handed their phones over to the

1448
01:07:53,620 --> 01:07:52,069
cops and said here here's my pictures

1449
01:07:55,359 --> 01:07:53,630
and you know when the cops gave them

1450
01:07:57,519 --> 01:07:55,369
their phones back I've never heard of

1451
01:07:59,170 --> 01:07:57,529
the cop wiped my phone out this is this

1452
01:08:01,289 --> 01:07:59,180
is the first time I've heard of that

1453
01:08:05,079 --> 01:08:01,299
happening certainly in mass like that

1454
01:08:06,279 --> 01:08:05,089
which would suggest to me that you know

1455
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:06,289
they definitely don't want some

1456
01:08:11,230 --> 01:08:08,210
information out there what what the

1457
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:11,240
reason is they I have I haven't the

1458
01:08:15,579 --> 01:08:13,010
foggiest but they clearly don't want

1459
01:08:18,970 --> 01:08:15,589
some information out there and then we

1460
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:18,980
have the curious case I want to spend

1461
01:08:24,129 --> 01:08:20,690
some time on this it's already popping

1462
01:08:27,309 --> 01:08:24,139
up in Twitter the security guard and the

1463
01:08:31,110 --> 01:08:27,319
security guards story now we've heard

1464
01:08:34,899 --> 01:08:31,120
like three different versions of it now

1465
01:08:38,470 --> 01:08:34,909
the timeline has been shifted what

1466
01:08:40,539 --> 01:08:38,480
wasn't originally put out if you are

1467
01:08:42,610 --> 01:08:40,549
going to have a press conference and

1468
01:08:44,019 --> 01:08:42,620
you're the Chief of Police right and

1469
01:08:45,519 --> 01:08:44,029
you're the dude and you'd have the stars

1470
01:08:47,559 --> 01:08:45,529
on your shoulder and you're stepping up

1471
01:08:49,930 --> 01:08:47,569
and you're you're presenting facts to

1472
01:08:52,149 --> 01:08:49,940
the media those are supposed to be the

1473
01:08:55,450 --> 01:08:52,159
facts right you can't go back and

1474
01:08:59,709 --> 01:08:55,460
retract that statement and especially

1475
01:09:02,050 --> 01:08:59,719
when the statement completely pulls the

1476
01:09:04,329 --> 01:09:02,060
it's like pulling a thread on a on a

1477
01:09:08,169 --> 01:09:04,339
sweater it completely comes unraveled

1478
01:09:10,090 --> 01:09:08,179
and now the press doesn't know what to

1479
01:09:13,180 --> 01:09:10,100
believe anymore because they printed

1480
01:09:14,979 --> 01:09:13,190
yesterday what you had said is fact now

1481
01:09:18,309 --> 01:09:14,989
they've got to go back and retract your

1482
01:09:19,990 --> 01:09:18,319
statements to their readers and they the

1483
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:20,000
readers are gonna go now wait a minute

1484
01:09:24,309 --> 01:09:22,250
you know what are we supposed to believe

1485
01:09:26,829 --> 01:09:24,319
here and that's exactly what's going on

1486
01:09:29,149 --> 01:09:26,839
with this case a case that should be by

1487
01:09:31,519 --> 01:09:29,159
and large very simple

1488
01:09:34,220 --> 01:09:31,529
very it should be one of the oddly

1489
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:34,230
simplest cases ever I mean it's a

1490
01:09:38,410 --> 01:09:36,449
horrible thing that happened but there's

1491
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:38,420
so many cameras there's so many

1492
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:41,370
thousands of cameras pointed at every

1493
01:09:46,789 --> 01:09:44,850
angle from of the event itself I mean

1494
01:09:48,590 --> 01:09:46,799
III don't want to I don't want to make

1495
01:09:50,599 --> 01:09:48,600
light of it but it really should be

1496
01:09:51,079 --> 01:09:50,609
something where we have so many angles

1497
01:09:52,430 --> 01:09:51,089
on it

1498
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:52,440
we should almost be able to do that

1499
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:54,330
thing that they do in movies where we're

1500
01:09:58,850 --> 01:09:56,250
like the freeze frame and then the

1501
01:10:00,770 --> 01:09:58,860
camera pans around the like the guy and

1502
01:10:02,330 --> 01:10:00,780
we're jumping in motion in 3d you know

1503
01:10:04,450 --> 01:10:02,340
it was like a full circle we should be

1504
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:04,460
able to get almost every angle of

1505
01:10:09,050 --> 01:10:06,690
everything that occurred obviously

1506
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:09,060
probably not within the room itself for

1507
01:10:15,350 --> 01:10:12,449
privacy reasons but everything else the

1508
01:10:18,590 --> 01:10:15,360
windows on the outside the event floor

1509
01:10:20,750 --> 01:10:18,600
down below the hallway the door to the

1510
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:20,760
room itself the elevators that were used

1511
01:10:26,689 --> 01:10:23,250
the parking garage all of that should be

1512
01:10:28,580 --> 01:10:26,699
very very heavily surveilled I'm not

1513
01:10:30,379 --> 01:10:28,590
saying this really it should be in all

1514
01:10:32,899 --> 01:10:30,389
places but we know that this is Vegas

1515
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:32,909
and this is a very big hotel and that's

1516
01:10:37,270 --> 01:10:35,250
how they work the fact that we don't

1517
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:37,280
have that data now is a little bit

1518
01:10:42,379 --> 01:10:39,810
disturbing it you know one thing that

1519
01:10:45,590 --> 01:10:42,389
actually crops up to my mind when we're

1520
01:10:48,379 --> 01:10:45,600
thinking about what if scenarios right

1521
01:10:50,959 --> 01:10:48,389
what what what is happening here why

1522
01:10:53,060 --> 01:10:50,969
don't we have the data is something

1523
01:10:54,590 --> 01:10:53,070
being hidden is something being kept

1524
01:10:56,270 --> 01:10:54,600
quiet while they investigate other

1525
01:10:57,770 --> 01:10:56,280
things do they want to cover something

1526
01:10:58,850 --> 01:10:57,780
up there's a lot of what-ifs there and

1527
01:11:02,149 --> 01:10:58,860
there's something that's really

1528
01:11:05,780 --> 01:11:02,159
important to remember because there are

1529
01:11:08,149 --> 01:11:05,790
thousands of cameras in the just in the

1530
01:11:10,340 --> 01:11:08,159
the hotel itself and then there's the

1531
01:11:13,399 --> 01:11:10,350
hundreds if not thousands of cellphones

1532
01:11:14,899 --> 01:11:13,409
that recorded some information about

1533
01:11:18,950 --> 01:11:14,909
what happened even if it was just a

1534
01:11:21,649 --> 01:11:18,960
blurry picture most of that data that

1535
01:11:24,470 --> 01:11:21,659
came from the cellphones was not

1536
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:24,480
strictly stored locally most people have

1537
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:26,370
their Google and their Apple based

1538
01:11:32,689 --> 01:11:29,130
phones set up so that it syncs their

1539
01:11:35,390 --> 01:11:32,699
photographs or their text etc their I

1540
01:11:37,310 --> 01:11:35,400
messages up to their Google and Apple

1541
01:11:40,399 --> 01:11:37,320
services which means even if they're

1542
01:11:42,610 --> 01:11:40,409
wiped off the phone unless specifically

1543
01:11:44,350 --> 01:11:42,620
Google and Apple went in and

1544
01:11:46,300 --> 01:11:44,360
everything from the servers that means

1545
01:11:49,270 --> 01:11:46,310
that Google and Apple still possess all

1546
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:49,280
of that data and at some point as we've

1547
01:11:54,250 --> 01:11:51,530
seen time and time again things get

1548
01:11:56,620 --> 01:11:54,260
leaked so if things are trying to be

1549
01:11:58,960 --> 01:11:56,630
covered up my guess is at some point

1550
01:12:00,610 --> 01:11:58,970
someone will leak footage someone will

1551
01:12:02,170 --> 01:12:00,620
leak text someone will leak pictures

1552
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:02,180
from the from the show floor on the

1553
01:12:08,410 --> 01:12:04,970
ground and we'll find out exactly what

1554
01:12:11,740 --> 01:12:08,420
actually happened how when you delete a

1555
01:12:13,750 --> 01:12:11,750
hard drive now the reports are right now

1556
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:13,760
that are going around is that the

1557
01:12:19,510 --> 01:12:15,530
authorities grabbed everybody's hard

1558
01:12:24,730 --> 01:12:19,520
drives cell phones laptops and erase

1559
01:12:29,950 --> 01:12:24,740
them when you do that how how erased is

1560
01:12:31,630 --> 01:12:29,960
erased okay not erased at all in fact so

1561
01:12:33,820 --> 01:12:31,640
how this works is this is the quick

1562
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:33,830
high-level primer when you delete a file

1563
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:36,050
off of your drive what you're really

1564
01:12:39,850 --> 01:12:38,210
doing is you're changing a singular bit

1565
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:39,860
on your drive it's an oversimplification

1566
01:12:44,020 --> 01:12:42,050
but for this case it'll work okay you

1567
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:44,030
change a singular bit that says this

1568
01:12:49,030 --> 01:12:46,610
file is now deleted when we need space

1569
01:12:52,390 --> 01:12:49,040
for other files feel free to overwrite

1570
01:12:54,670 --> 01:12:52,400
all these sectors or all these bytes of

1571
01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:54,680
information on this drive with the new

1572
01:12:59,860 --> 01:12:57,170
files the new pictures the new movies so

1573
01:13:02,800 --> 01:12:59,870
until those portions of the drive are

1574
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:02,810
overwritten with new data that data can

1575
01:13:09,220 --> 01:13:05,290
all be restored and recovered with

1576
01:13:10,570 --> 01:13:09,230
theoretically 100% accuracy assuming

1577
01:13:13,540 --> 01:13:10,580
someone wants to take the time to do it

1578
01:13:16,750 --> 01:13:13,550
so if anyone has phones that they got

1579
01:13:20,410 --> 01:13:16,760
back from from the law enforcement with

1580
01:13:22,330 --> 01:13:20,420
files removed with messages removed and

1581
01:13:24,100 --> 01:13:22,340
they feel like they want to take it to

1582
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:24,110
someone who handles this sort of thing

1583
01:13:27,820 --> 01:13:25,850
at digital forensics or recovery

1584
01:13:30,430 --> 01:13:27,830
specialists they can probably get that

1585
01:13:33,490 --> 01:13:30,440
data back unless the law enforcement

1586
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:33,500
specifically used tools that zero out

1587
01:13:41,020 --> 01:13:36,770
those those files which my guess is they

1588
01:13:43,090 --> 01:13:41,030
probably did not do they Jade I would be

1589
01:13:45,490 --> 01:13:43,100
surprised if they did when you see

1590
01:13:46,990 --> 01:13:45,500
somebody I'm gonna stay on this subject

1591
01:13:49,150 --> 01:13:47,000
we're gonna come back to this in a

1592
01:13:50,890 --> 01:13:49,160
second but when you see you know some of

1593
01:13:52,420 --> 01:13:50,900
these black hats and these guys you know

1594
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:52,430
know you know the authorities are

1595
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:53,690
kicking down the front door and they're

1596
01:13:58,560 --> 01:13:55,570
pulling out the drives and and

1597
01:14:00,390 --> 01:13:58,570
hitting them with a Makita right and

1598
01:14:02,970 --> 01:14:00,400
they're drilling through the drives can

1599
01:14:05,370 --> 01:14:02,980
that information is that drive at that

1600
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:05,380
point worthless or can you still get

1601
01:14:10,350 --> 01:14:08,290
data off that drive it depends that that

1602
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:10,360
gets a little bit more dicey I mean if

1603
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:12,370
you take a drive and you just beat it

1604
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:15,130
too high holy hell you know physically

1605
01:14:19,380 --> 01:14:17,050
then it is destroyed to a point where

1606
01:14:21,870 --> 01:14:19,390
simply reconstructing it physically as a

1607
01:14:23,970 --> 01:14:21,880
challenge let alone finding - the way to

1608
01:14:26,010 --> 01:14:23,980
get the individual bits off of it at

1609
01:14:27,750 --> 01:14:26,020
that point if they've done a good enough

1610
01:14:29,940 --> 01:14:27,760
job of drilling holes in it and just

1611
01:14:31,940 --> 01:14:29,950
smashing the heck out of it it's pretty

1612
01:14:36,540 --> 01:14:31,950
hard to recover it's not impossible

1613
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:36,550
always but in many cases yeah I'm still

1614
01:14:41,130 --> 01:14:38,050
not comfortable with it I mean their

1615
01:14:43,620 --> 01:14:41,140
sectors they're better on touch it is

1616
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:43,630
possible at that point it simply really

1617
01:14:47,480 --> 01:14:45,970
has to be highly valuable because the

1618
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:47,490
amount of work that would go into

1619
01:14:54,090 --> 01:14:50,890
restoring any segment of the data for

1620
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:54,100
just a total crapshoot of whether or not

1621
01:14:56,850 --> 01:14:55,690
they'll pull anything valuable off of it

1622
01:15:00,600 --> 01:14:56,860
because most of the sectors will

1623
01:15:02,790 --> 01:15:00,610
probably be destroyed it is it's not

1624
01:15:04,890 --> 01:15:02,800
good odds right so it unless they know

1625
01:15:06,930 --> 01:15:04,900
that the the data on there would be so

1626
01:15:08,990 --> 01:15:06,940
immensely valuable no one would probably

1627
01:15:11,910 --> 01:15:09,000
take the amount of time to do that now

1628
01:15:15,180 --> 01:15:11,920
which takes us to our next phase so they

1629
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:15,190
go to his house they search it

1630
01:15:22,500 --> 01:15:17,890
he's got computers there they recovered

1631
01:15:25,130 --> 01:15:22,510
stuff from his house and then the next

1632
01:15:29,580 --> 01:15:25,140
date which is crazy to me

1633
01:15:35,490 --> 01:15:29,590
allegedly his house got burgled now how

1634
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:35,500
a guy that just shot up a concert killed

1635
01:15:44,100 --> 01:15:40,690
58 people and the the house is left

1636
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:44,110
unsecured now does that does that make

1637
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:47,530
sense to you oh no it doesn't make any

1638
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:50,170
sense at all I mean in that that's not

1639
01:15:54,030 --> 01:15:51,970
even really a from a technology

1640
01:15:56,670 --> 01:15:54,040
standpoint that's just a pure common

1641
01:15:58,200 --> 01:15:56,680
sense if you if you had his house

1642
01:16:02,040 --> 01:15:58,210
basically becomes an active crime scene

1643
01:16:03,930 --> 01:16:02,050
I mean he was he was as far as law

1644
01:16:05,550 --> 01:16:03,940
enforcement knew the shooter at that

1645
01:16:08,610 --> 01:16:05,560
point they still hadn't at least

1646
01:16:09,420 --> 01:16:08,620
publicly disclosed why they feel he

1647
01:16:11,130 --> 01:16:09,430
might have done

1648
01:16:12,810 --> 01:16:11,140
done this they what his motives might

1649
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:12,820
have been if he was working alone do you

1650
01:16:19,590 --> 01:16:15,850
have accomplices etc simply letting his

1651
01:16:22,830 --> 01:16:19,600
house be unprotected would be absolutely

1652
01:16:26,310 --> 01:16:22,840
asinine I mean no no respectable law

1653
01:16:28,140 --> 01:16:26,320
enforcement with any amount of scrutiny

1654
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:28,150
being placed on them for a major issue

1655
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:32,890
would have done that at a singular set

1656
01:16:36,210 --> 01:16:34,570
of homicides let alone the

1657
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:36,220
fifty-some-odd people that were murdered

1658
01:16:40,950 --> 01:16:39,250
by this man I don't see why the police

1659
01:16:43,020 --> 01:16:40,960
wouldn't have at least had someone

1660
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:43,030
posted there around the clock for the

1661
01:16:46,050 --> 01:16:44,530
first few days while they were working

1662
01:16:48,210 --> 01:16:46,060
on things yeah they're doing everything

1663
01:16:51,390 --> 01:16:48,220
they could to compromise everything they

1664
01:16:54,750 --> 01:16:51,400
can to compromise this case somebody

1665
01:16:58,770 --> 01:16:54,760
just posted that they had Samsung Smart

1666
01:17:01,020 --> 01:16:58,780
TVs throughout the Mandalay Bay you and

1667
01:17:03,540 --> 01:17:01,030
I have discussed this way too many times

1668
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:03,550
in the past but if you really want to

1669
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:05,530
surveil somebody these days do through

1670
01:17:10,650 --> 01:17:08,410
the Samsung Smart TV oh yeah

1671
01:17:13,890 --> 01:17:10,660
no now here here's a kind of an

1672
01:17:16,470 --> 01:17:13,900
interesting thing those very very

1673
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:16,480
insecure very very insecure and as

1674
01:17:19,260 --> 01:17:18,250
someone could have absolutely surveilled

1675
01:17:21,030 --> 01:17:19,270
through that but they would have had to

1676
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:21,040
known that they wanted to surveil

1677
01:17:26,670 --> 01:17:22,690
through it at the time to do it so

1678
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:26,680
assuming that that nobody knew that that

1679
01:17:30,660 --> 01:17:28,810
Stephen paddock was about to do what he

1680
01:17:32,430 --> 01:17:30,670
did and they wouldn't have known

1681
01:17:33,870 --> 01:17:32,440
necessary to surveil him so they

1682
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:33,880
wouldn't have been able to activate the

1683
01:17:39,860 --> 01:17:36,730
TV to do that if they had known they

1684
01:17:45,060 --> 01:17:39,870
absolutely could have the the ability

1685
01:17:46,860 --> 01:17:45,070
today to snoop on somebody and wait it

1686
01:17:50,010 --> 01:17:46,870
doesn't necessarily have to be a smart

1687
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:50,020
TV but that's the easiest way to do it

1688
01:17:58,380 --> 01:17:54,130
and the software that it's running is is

1689
01:18:01,500 --> 01:17:58,390
basically your smartphone you know

1690
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:01,510
software's what's running that and and

1691
01:18:05,340 --> 01:18:03,970
that software isn't updated but you also

1692
01:18:07,620 --> 01:18:05,350
have all of the other smart devices

1693
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:07,630
throughout your house you have the

1694
01:18:13,070 --> 01:18:09,610
Google stuff you have the Amazon stuff

1695
01:18:15,810 --> 01:18:13,080
echo these things are on all the time

1696
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:15,820
the time right right fine

1697
01:18:20,480 --> 01:18:18,130
there is nothing that if you have a

1698
01:18:22,740 --> 01:18:20,490
smart house that is running this stuff

1699
01:18:24,930 --> 01:18:22,750
everything is being recorded

1700
01:18:28,590 --> 01:18:24,940
your private conversations that you

1701
01:18:30,480 --> 01:18:28,600
think are private are not are they no no

1702
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:30,490
not not at all and and I think I think

1703
01:18:34,020 --> 01:18:32,290
anyone who stops to think about it for a

1704
01:18:36,450 --> 01:18:34,030
minute will instantly realize that I

1705
01:18:38,340 --> 01:18:36,460
mean there's the obvious devices around

1706
01:18:40,590 --> 01:18:38,350
us you know you get the Amazon you know

1707
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:40,600
Alexa's and the and your Google

1708
01:18:44,820 --> 01:18:42,610
smartphones and your Google home devices

1709
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:44,830
the things that when you say okay Google

1710
01:18:49,140 --> 01:18:46,690
and then it goes blink and then you know

1711
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:49,150
it's listening to you but there's many

1712
01:18:55,950 --> 01:18:51,850
other devices that also collect data on

1713
01:18:57,930 --> 01:18:55,960
you in fact in fact more so then you

1714
01:18:59,490 --> 01:18:57,940
probably think so right now there's

1715
01:19:02,280 --> 01:18:59,500
around fifteen point four billion

1716
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:02,290
devices that classify as Internet of

1717
01:19:06,270 --> 01:19:04,570
Things devices so kind of things that

1718
01:19:07,890 --> 01:19:06,280
you just assumed were dumb around your

1719
01:19:09,810 --> 01:19:07,900
house but that are connected to the

1720
01:19:12,210 --> 01:19:09,820
Internet and collecting some form of

1721
01:19:14,220 --> 01:19:12,220
data in order to be used by the company

1722
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:14,230
that makes it to you know market or to

1723
01:19:18,780 --> 01:19:16,570
sell data to other companies that is

1724
01:19:21,480 --> 01:19:18,790
expected to grow to seventy five and a

1725
01:19:24,990 --> 01:19:21,490
half billion over the next seven and a

1726
01:19:27,390 --> 01:19:25,000
half years which is which absolutely

1727
01:19:29,100 --> 01:19:27,400
dwarfs the total number of both

1728
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:29,110
computers and smartphones in the world

1729
01:19:36,540 --> 01:19:33,010
in fact it should be to the point where

1730
01:19:38,700 --> 01:19:36,550
there are roughly fifteen to twenty five

1731
01:19:41,460 --> 01:19:38,710
Internet of Things devices collecting

1732
01:19:44,190 --> 01:19:41,470
data on every man woman and child on

1733
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:44,200
earth and that includes third world

1734
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:45,370
nations that don't even have electricity

1735
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:47,770
so if you start to think about that that

1736
01:19:53,220 --> 01:19:50,170
means that people like us here in the

1737
01:19:56,250 --> 01:19:53,230
United States are gonna be shouldering

1738
01:19:58,020 --> 01:19:56,260
the brunt of the onslaught of Internet

1739
01:19:59,700 --> 01:19:58,030
of Things type devices which means you

1740
01:20:02,070 --> 01:19:59,710
can really realistically expect at any

1741
01:20:03,150 --> 01:20:02,080
given point 30-plus devices in your home

1742
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:03,160
or workplace that are watching

1743
01:20:07,440 --> 01:20:05,530
everything you do TVs toasters

1744
01:20:09,750 --> 01:20:07,450
everything there's an internet enabled

1745
01:20:13,530 --> 01:20:09,760
crock-pot nowadays which just blows my

1746
01:20:17,130 --> 01:20:13,540
mind so in its a lot of data and some of

1747
01:20:20,310 --> 01:20:17,140
that data is very innocuous right a good

1748
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:20,320
a good example of this let's let's just

1749
01:20:25,170 --> 01:20:21,850
let's say you just want to use your

1750
01:20:27,570 --> 01:20:25,180
phone or Google's home or Alexa to check

1751
01:20:30,660 --> 01:20:27,580
the weather right say you say ok Google

1752
01:20:32,100 --> 01:20:30,670
what's the weather right the only data

1753
01:20:34,590 --> 01:20:32,110
then that's really being recorded is

1754
01:20:35,930 --> 01:20:34,600
where you were at that you wanted to

1755
01:20:37,910 --> 01:20:35,940
check the weather and the

1756
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:37,920
you checked it that in and of itself

1757
01:20:40,910 --> 01:20:39,690
isn't that big of a deal but if you if

1758
01:20:42,950 --> 01:20:40,920
you extrapolate that out as a

1759
01:20:45,380 --> 01:20:42,960
hypothetical and say okay you do that

1760
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:45,390
regularly and then all of the sudden you

1761
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:47,690
say okay google what's the weather in

1762
01:20:52,220 --> 01:20:51,090
Abu Dhabi and it checks that for you

1763
01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:52,230
well then all of a sudden you've

1764
01:20:56,810 --> 01:20:54,449
deviated from your standard patterns

1765
01:20:59,120 --> 01:20:56,820
that's flagged within a system and they

1766
01:21:01,250 --> 01:20:59,130
now know that you are in let's say

1767
01:21:04,550 --> 01:21:01,260
Burbank California checking the weather

1768
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:04,560
all of the sudden in Abu Dhabi well they

1769
01:21:07,370 --> 01:21:06,090
can start to say okay

1770
01:21:09,650 --> 01:21:07,380
well now all the sudden is checking the

1771
01:21:11,900 --> 01:21:09,660
weather again from a smartphone and he's

1772
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:11,910
at LAX and they can start to piece

1773
01:21:15,170 --> 01:21:13,650
together that well I think Jimmy church

1774
01:21:17,750 --> 01:21:15,180
is about to hop on a plane to Abu Dhabi

1775
01:21:20,689 --> 01:21:17,760
right and that's with just collecting

1776
01:21:21,709 --> 01:21:20,699
really innocuous data and a lot more

1777
01:21:23,180 --> 01:21:21,719
data than that is being collected

1778
01:21:25,390 --> 01:21:23,190
there's microphones there's cameras

1779
01:21:29,870 --> 01:21:25,400
there's there's there's everything the

1780
01:21:34,550 --> 01:21:29,880
the data because this was a Samsung

1781
01:21:37,610 --> 01:21:34,560
smart television in the Mandalay Bay you

1782
01:21:41,709 --> 01:21:37,620
think that you are once you close the

1783
01:21:45,140 --> 01:21:41,719
hotel room door that you are private you

1784
01:21:48,530 --> 01:21:45,150
you quite simply are not they they have

1785
01:21:51,380 --> 01:21:48,540
the ability to go back and hack his past

1786
01:21:53,810 --> 01:21:51,390
on what he was doing in that hotel room

1787
01:21:55,459 --> 01:21:53,820
for the last four days somewhat somewhat

1788
01:21:57,380 --> 01:21:55,469
yeah yeah that is that is somewhat true

1789
01:22:00,290 --> 01:21:57,390
I mean they they they can tell certain

1790
01:22:02,420 --> 01:22:00,300
things when he turned it on and off what

1791
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:02,430
he did with it that sort of thing the

1792
01:22:06,410 --> 01:22:04,290
the problem with with those sorts of

1793
01:22:08,959 --> 01:22:06,420
devices so there's certain types of data

1794
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:08,969
that is collected passively so like

1795
01:22:12,500 --> 01:22:11,250
let's say Stephen paddock had two or

1796
01:22:14,570 --> 01:22:12,510
three cell phones on him two or three

1797
01:22:16,459 --> 01:22:14,580
smart phones let's say one was Android

1798
01:22:17,660 --> 01:22:16,469
one was was an iPhone right just for

1799
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:17,670
those just for the sake of it cuz we

1800
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:19,290
don't really know yet even though we've

1801
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:22,290
been trying to find this out now we can

1802
01:22:25,850 --> 01:22:24,210
tell where he's been what he's been

1803
01:22:30,380 --> 01:22:25,860
doing who he's been talking to what

1804
01:22:33,500 --> 01:22:30,390
messages he has and hasn't sent we we

1805
01:22:35,689 --> 01:22:33,510
can get the the metadata and in most

1806
01:22:37,490 --> 01:22:35,699
cases the voice transcripts of those

1807
01:22:39,229 --> 01:22:37,500
calls the the law enforcement should

1808
01:22:41,030 --> 01:22:39,239
have all of that we know all the

1809
01:22:42,650 --> 01:22:41,040
websites he hit even if he tried to

1810
01:22:45,650 --> 01:22:42,660
clear some browser history that's all

1811
01:22:47,990 --> 01:22:45,660
stored quote-unquote in the cloud anyway

1812
01:22:49,820 --> 01:22:48,000
so all of that is stored passively

1813
01:22:53,210 --> 01:22:49,830
that's always being collected on you

1814
01:22:54,860 --> 01:22:53,220
always you me you know grandma Martha

1815
01:22:57,230 --> 01:22:54,870
all of that data is being collected on

1816
01:22:59,260 --> 01:22:57,240
us and stored for perpetuity for all

1817
01:23:03,410 --> 01:22:59,270
time and it's searchable and indexed

1818
01:23:05,740 --> 01:23:03,420
what's not passive are specifically

1819
01:23:08,060 --> 01:23:05,750
activating the camera and the microphone

1820
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:08,070
this is where it starts to get a little

1821
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:12,090
bit specific in order for the camera and

1822
01:23:17,390 --> 01:23:14,570
the microphone to be recording

1823
01:23:19,220 --> 01:23:17,400
significant amounts of data they have to

1824
01:23:22,630 --> 01:23:19,230
specifically activate it and who they is

1825
01:23:25,940 --> 01:23:22,640
is basically anyone from Google Apple or

1826
01:23:29,900 --> 01:23:25,950
any of the agencies that have access to

1827
01:23:31,070 --> 01:23:29,910
that so the NS NHS yeah yeah you know

1828
01:23:33,530 --> 01:23:31,080
what I'm saying yeah yeah well what

1829
01:23:37,130 --> 01:23:33,540
about the Mandalay Bay themselves could

1830
01:23:40,490 --> 01:23:37,140
they activate they wouldn't tell us even

1831
01:23:43,100 --> 01:23:40,500
if they could they wouldn't want the

1832
01:23:45,860 --> 01:23:43,110
visitors to the Mandalay Bay that would

1833
01:23:48,230 --> 01:23:45,870
be bad right no that's it honestly my

1834
01:23:50,420 --> 01:23:48,240
guess is they have the ability but they

1835
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:50,430
would typically not and the only reason

1836
01:23:53,570 --> 01:23:51,810
I say that because they absolutely could

1837
01:23:54,950 --> 01:23:53,580
they totally could set it up so the

1838
01:23:57,290 --> 01:23:54,960
moment you close that door because they

1839
01:23:58,640 --> 01:23:57,300
use a nice nice electric door locks they

1840
01:24:00,710 --> 01:23:58,650
know when you enter the room and when

1841
01:24:02,450 --> 01:24:00,720
you exit the room it's it's very it's

1842
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:02,460
very it's very sophisticated

1843
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:04,530
so they absolutely could instantly turn

1844
01:24:09,020 --> 01:24:07,050
on say the the camera and microphone

1845
01:24:11,030 --> 01:24:09,030
within a smart TV as soon as you close

1846
01:24:13,610 --> 01:24:11,040
that door they absolutely could do that

1847
01:24:15,290 --> 01:24:13,620
technologically the only thing that

1848
01:24:17,990 --> 01:24:15,300
makes me think that they probably don't

1849
01:24:20,780 --> 01:24:18,000
is because the the possibility of a

1850
01:24:23,750 --> 01:24:20,790
lawsuit if that becomes public just is

1851
01:24:26,450 --> 01:24:23,760
so high I think they want to avoid those

1852
01:24:28,070 --> 01:24:26,460
lawsuits if they possibly can that's the

1853
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:28,080
only thing that makes me think they they

1854
01:24:31,940 --> 01:24:30,210
probably don't do that but I have no way

1855
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:31,950
of knowing one way or the other okay so

1856
01:24:39,260 --> 01:24:34,050
that's what the Smart TV but let me ask

1857
01:24:43,250 --> 01:24:39,270
you this is there the possibility of a

1858
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:43,260
camera being inside that room for

1859
01:24:48,890 --> 01:24:46,530
security reasons or whatever not only in

1860
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:48,900
the Mandalay Bay but in every major

1861
01:24:55,190 --> 01:24:51,690
hotel on the strip they videotape

1862
01:24:57,650 --> 01:24:55,200
everything everywhere do you think there

1863
01:25:00,440 --> 01:24:57,660
is the possibility that the owners of

1864
01:25:02,460 --> 01:25:00,450
these hotels have cameras in those rooms

1865
01:25:05,340 --> 01:25:02,470
that they are not telling you about

1866
01:25:09,900 --> 01:25:05,350
I think I think that possibility is high

1867
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:09,910
I think again if I were them and I was

1868
01:25:14,430 --> 01:25:12,730
obsessed with surveillance for you know

1869
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:14,440
just for my own business right so it's

1870
01:25:19,470 --> 01:25:16,210
for my own money-making usage and my own

1871
01:25:23,700 --> 01:25:19,480
protection having those cameras I could

1872
01:25:27,300 --> 01:25:23,710
see I think I think I would be hesitant

1873
01:25:29,430 --> 01:25:27,310
to enable those cameras unless for

1874
01:25:30,660 --> 01:25:29,440
example the police contacted me or I

1875
01:25:33,630 --> 01:25:30,670
thought there was a very legitimate

1876
01:25:35,490 --> 01:25:33,640
reason to do so simply because again if

1877
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:35,500
that information got leaked out

1878
01:25:41,790 --> 01:25:38,050
somewhere the potential for a lawsuit is

1879
01:25:43,500 --> 01:25:41,800
just is just too high I mean we saw when

1880
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:43,510
Edward Snowden you know went public and

1881
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:46,090
we got you know a kind of an inside look

1882
01:25:50,610 --> 01:25:47,770
at the prism program and the prism

1883
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:50,620
program allows basically the NSA to do

1884
01:25:56,370 --> 01:25:53,770
searches on people find data collated

1885
01:25:58,230 --> 01:25:56,380
all that data together and and part of

1886
01:26:00,150 --> 01:25:58,240
the functionality allows them to find

1887
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:00,160
the machines that they probably are

1888
01:26:04,950 --> 01:26:02,050
using and activate the webcam without

1889
01:26:07,100 --> 01:26:04,960
them knowing it and it's come out that

1890
01:26:09,930 --> 01:26:07,110
you know that's happened a lot and

1891
01:26:11,940 --> 01:26:09,940
pictures and video were we're kept of

1892
01:26:14,910 --> 01:26:11,950
people you know in compromising

1893
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:14,920
situations and the NSA can kind of sort

1894
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:16,570
of get away with it because they're the

1895
01:26:21,210 --> 01:26:18,610
government you know but if you're the

1896
01:26:23,490 --> 01:26:21,220
Mandalay Bay or the Bellagio or New York

1897
01:26:25,710 --> 01:26:23,500
New York and that comes out you're a

1898
01:26:27,690 --> 01:26:25,720
for-profit institution that just got

1899
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:27,700
caught with your pants down spying on

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01:26:31,620 --> 01:26:29,530
people right and that's that's that's

1901
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:31,630
that's too too big of a possible

1902
01:26:35,010 --> 01:26:33,730
liability I would I would hope that the

1903
01:26:36,090 --> 01:26:35,020
Mandalay Bay wouldn't do that now in

1904
01:26:38,010 --> 01:26:36,100
this case it would have been actually

1905
01:26:40,550 --> 01:26:38,020
useful and beneficial to have that data

1906
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:40,560
but my guess is they probably don't

1907
01:26:43,290 --> 01:26:42,970
haven't activated the cameras if they're

1908
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:43,300
there

1909
01:26:48,210 --> 01:26:45,370
I would assume let's take a break right

1910
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:48,220
here and while you were mentioning this

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01:26:52,110 --> 01:26:50,650
I just checked all of the laptops I have

1912
01:26:54,450 --> 01:26:52,120
four of them sitting in front of me

1913
01:26:56,730 --> 01:26:54,460
to make sure that my tape was in place

1914
01:26:57,750 --> 01:26:56,740
on all of the cameras I do i they're all

1915
01:27:00,930 --> 01:26:57,760
taped up man

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01:27:03,660 --> 01:27:00,940
I've got one camera in here that I'm

1917
01:27:05,340 --> 01:27:03,670
waving at that is independent of

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01:27:05,820 --> 01:27:05,350
everything else man I keep that stuff on

1919
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:05,830
lockdown

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this is fade to black our guest tonight

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01:27:11,500 --> 01:27:10,270
Brian lund Duke we are hacking the Las

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Vegas shooter

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01:27:15,050 --> 01:27:12,980
more of Brian right after this short

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break stay with us

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way out here we listen to Jimmy Church

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you're listening to faint and black

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always on the edge of the hottest

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alternative talk jimmy church with fade

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to black

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more than our fair share this is Jimmy

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can't tell you all about the benefits

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you know there's reasons do your due

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life oil com you are listening to fade

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to black with Jenny Church on the game

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01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:15,280
change in network hi I'm Lisa Vance

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01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:17,650
you're listening to Jimmy Church this is

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01:30:24,440 --> 01:30:20,650
a revolution the revolution will not be

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televised the revolution is on radio

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[Music]

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01:31:11,460 --> 01:31:09,840
all right welcome back fade to black I'm

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01:31:13,410 --> 01:31:11,470
the OCME Church our guest tonight Brian

1991
01:31:17,780 --> 01:31:13,420
lund Duke one of the smartest computer

1992
01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:17,790
guys that I know that says a lot too

1993
01:31:24,090 --> 01:31:20,290
we're talking about the hacking of the

1994
01:31:26,490 --> 01:31:24,100
Las Vegas shooter and and and privacy

1995
01:31:29,700 --> 01:31:26,500
and what is actually out there and Brian

1996
01:31:31,860 --> 01:31:29,710
you recently shut down your Facebook

1997
01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:31,870
page when you go and close a Facebook

1998
01:31:40,470 --> 01:31:36,130
page down okay that's one step but how

1999
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:40,480
much is still left behind oh this is

2000
01:31:43,440 --> 01:31:42,010
actually kind of interesting so there's

2001
01:31:45,690 --> 01:31:43,450
there's a couple of different approaches

2002
01:31:47,310 --> 01:31:45,700
you can take you can disable your

2003
01:31:48,990 --> 01:31:47,320
Facebook account which basically does

2004
01:31:52,020 --> 01:31:49,000
nothing except keep you from logging

2005
01:31:54,090 --> 01:31:52,030
into it you can actually request there's

2006
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:54,100
a custom page on Facebook you really

2007
01:31:57,540 --> 01:31:56,290
have to dig long and hard to find it but

2008
01:31:59,930 --> 01:31:57,550
there's a page where you can request

2009
01:32:03,450 --> 01:31:59,940
that your account be deleted permanently

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01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:03,460
when you do that Facebook I believe

2011
01:32:08,460 --> 01:32:05,890
gives you two weeks I think it's 14 days

2012
01:32:11,610 --> 01:32:08,470
to change your mind if you try to log in

2013
01:32:14,490 --> 01:32:11,620
again in those 14 days it'll abort the

2014
01:32:17,610 --> 01:32:14,500
deleting procedure if you let it go

2015
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:17,620
ahead and do the formal deletion what

2016
01:32:23,340 --> 01:32:19,330
happens is they begin then begin the

2017
01:32:25,620 --> 01:32:23,350
process of removing your data so you

2018
01:32:28,380 --> 01:32:25,630
know your posts your pictures etc

2019
01:32:31,170 --> 01:32:28,390
everything you've clicked like on from

2020
01:32:33,690 --> 01:32:31,180
the live servers what they don't do is

2021
01:32:37,440 --> 01:32:33,700
remove it from the backup servers so I

2022
01:32:41,340 --> 01:32:37,450
deleted my account many months back now

2023
01:32:43,230 --> 01:32:41,350
in theory if facebook cycles through its

2024
01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:43,240
backups meaning that they kind of delete

2025
01:32:48,930 --> 01:32:46,210
their oldest backups in order to make

2026
01:32:52,050 --> 01:32:48,940
space for new backups every three months

2027
01:32:53,790 --> 01:32:52,060
or so all my data should be gone I have

2028
01:32:55,950 --> 01:32:53,800
no way of verifying that and I've worked

2029
01:32:57,810 --> 01:32:55,960
with their engineers and their PR

2030
01:33:00,150 --> 01:32:57,820
department to try and find some way to

2031
01:33:02,550 --> 01:33:00,160
verify when all of my data is actually

2032
01:33:04,050 --> 01:33:02,560
removed from their server and they've

2033
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:04,060
they've been pretty clear with me that

2034
01:33:09,090 --> 01:33:06,970
they cannot and will not or I guess more

2035
01:33:12,020 --> 01:33:09,100
specifically will not provide me with

2036
01:33:15,870 --> 01:33:12,030
with any way of verifying that have you

2037
01:33:19,260 --> 01:33:15,880
and was it under Brian lund okay it was

2038
01:33:20,460 --> 01:33:19,270
okay so right now if I let's let's let's

2039
01:33:22,410 --> 01:33:20,470
have fun with this

2040
01:33:24,810 --> 01:33:22,420
I'm yeah rock out so you can find out my

2041
01:33:26,250 --> 01:33:24,820
email only because you just recently did

2042
01:33:28,830 --> 01:33:26,260
this and I know that you've been pretty

2043
01:33:31,590 --> 01:33:28,840
vigilant about getting your data removed

2044
01:33:36,420 --> 01:33:31,600
off of Facebook so let's go let's go

2045
01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:36,430
Brian lund Duke Facebook let's just do a

2046
01:33:46,860 --> 01:33:41,530
basic google search and now dude you've

2047
01:33:50,250 --> 01:33:46,870
got yeah it's all there

2048
01:33:53,220 --> 01:33:50,260
all of your pictures are certainly here

2049
01:33:57,450 --> 01:33:53,230
now that's in images but yeah right

2050
01:33:59,610 --> 01:33:57,460
there right there okay right there this

2051
01:34:01,470 --> 01:33:59,620
is the difficult thing I I kind of

2052
01:34:03,870 --> 01:34:01,480
almost need to create a dummy Facebook

2053
01:34:05,430 --> 01:34:03,880
account now just to go in there and look

2054
01:34:06,930 --> 01:34:05,440
through everything that Facebook did or

2055
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:06,940
didn't delete I almost need to do a

2056
01:34:10,740 --> 01:34:08,770
follow up video on this just detailing

2057
01:34:14,670 --> 01:34:10,750
it all but it is it really wasn't an

2058
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:14,680
interesting process so I I verified with

2059
01:34:19,830 --> 01:34:16,690
their their media Department their PR

2060
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:19,840
guys every step of the way to make sure

2061
01:34:24,150 --> 01:34:21,610
that you know it was getting deleted and

2062
01:34:26,070 --> 01:34:24,160
man they swore up and down to me who'd a

2063
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:26,080
thunk that the folks at Facebook

2064
01:34:29,730 --> 01:34:27,610
couldn't be trusted to delete my data

2065
01:34:31,380 --> 01:34:29,740
you know it's because it goes so deep

2066
01:34:33,150 --> 01:34:31,390
though that's the other thing you know

2067
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:33,160
it just goes so deep and it's been there

2068
01:34:39,390 --> 01:34:36,970
for so long and that's you know which

2069
01:34:43,740 --> 01:34:39,400
what's really funny is all of your

2070
01:34:46,620 --> 01:34:43,750
articles how to delete on Facebook those

2071
01:34:49,140 --> 01:34:46,630
that are coming up on Google for sure oh

2072
01:34:51,480 --> 01:34:49,150
yeah actually it was it was really funny

2073
01:34:53,370 --> 01:34:51,490
guys so I did a I did a video a YouTube

2074
01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:53,380
video on how to delete your Facebook

2075
01:34:57,540 --> 01:34:55,090
account like I walk people through I

2076
01:35:00,200 --> 01:34:57,550
actually live streamed my deleting of my

2077
01:35:04,140 --> 01:35:00,210
Facebook account but believe it or not

2078
01:35:05,700 --> 01:35:04,150
that video up and you know my account

2079
01:35:07,500 --> 01:35:05,710
was deleted already so I couldn't go

2080
01:35:10,710 --> 01:35:07,510
post it to Facebook so other people did

2081
01:35:12,780 --> 01:35:10,720
and Facebook just removed it everywhere

2082
01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:12,790
for quite a while and then I think they

2083
01:35:17,610 --> 01:35:15,130
just kind of gave up on it and started

2084
01:35:20,220 --> 01:35:17,620
letting it through finally now so his

2085
01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:20,230
Facebook page I'm talking about Steven

2086
01:35:25,470 --> 01:35:23,890
paddock was deleted or did he have

2087
01:35:27,210 --> 01:35:25,480
because there was a lot of us Steven

2088
01:35:30,030 --> 01:35:27,220
paddocks on face there's a lot of Steven

2089
01:35:33,090 --> 01:35:30,040
paddocks yeah Oh were you able to find

2090
01:35:35,610 --> 01:35:33,100
his no no I

2091
01:35:37,890 --> 01:35:35,620
oh I lost you Brian any of them that I

2092
01:35:39,510 --> 01:35:37,900
could have could how are you there yeah

2093
01:35:41,850 --> 01:35:39,520
I've got you back that was kind of weird

2094
01:35:43,260 --> 01:35:41,860
oh that was that was weird no I I

2095
01:35:45,570 --> 01:35:43,270
haven't been able to find Steven

2096
01:35:48,330 --> 01:35:45,580
paddocks specific Facebook account I've

2097
01:35:51,150 --> 01:35:48,340
looked high and low but not able to find

2098
01:35:54,180 --> 01:35:51,160
it anywhere yeah interesting because

2099
01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:54,190
even if his Facebook page was deleted

2100
01:35:59,460 --> 01:35:56,050
you would think that there would be a

2101
01:36:00,990 --> 01:35:59,470
trail there should be and and more to

2102
01:36:04,050 --> 01:36:01,000
the point even if there's not a trail

2103
01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:04,060
for you and me there's a trail for

2104
01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:07,330
Facebook Facebook has all that data at

2105
01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:09,730
least for several months Facebook

2106
01:36:14,190 --> 01:36:11,410
actually makes a formal statement when

2107
01:36:15,900 --> 01:36:14,200
you delete it that that the data may be

2108
01:36:18,690 --> 01:36:15,910
on their backup servers for up to three

2109
01:36:20,190 --> 01:36:18,700
months and I think that is because they

2110
01:36:22,460 --> 01:36:20,200
do rotate through their backups though I

2111
01:36:25,710 --> 01:36:22,470
don't have actual confirmation of that

2112
01:36:28,590 --> 01:36:25,720
so in theory if he had a Facebook

2113
01:36:31,980 --> 01:36:28,600
account and it was deleted by anyone

2114
01:36:34,110 --> 01:36:31,990
that data still exists right now unless

2115
01:36:36,480 --> 01:36:34,120
someone went through every single backup

2116
01:36:38,460 --> 01:36:36,490
and specifically deleted all that data

2117
01:36:40,500 --> 01:36:38,470
one at a time which would be kind of a

2118
01:36:47,130 --> 01:36:40,510
massive undertaking well I would also

2119
01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:47,140
think this before we move on if I me I'm

2120
01:36:52,650 --> 01:36:50,050
just you know if I went in and you know

2121
01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:52,660
committed some crazy crime similar to

2122
01:36:59,310 --> 01:36:55,290
this robbed a bank or you know some

2123
01:37:02,220 --> 01:36:59,320
strong-arm you know like that yeah like

2124
01:37:04,770 --> 01:37:02,230
his dad did right and I went and deleted

2125
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:04,780
my facebook account and deleted my

2126
01:37:10,020 --> 01:37:08,290
Twitter account I I could I mean I think

2127
01:37:12,090 --> 01:37:10,030
it would be a pretty safe bet since

2128
01:37:14,460 --> 01:37:12,100
we're talking about Las Vegas that my

2129
01:37:17,700 --> 01:37:14,470
prior history on the internet no matter

2130
01:37:21,300 --> 01:37:17,710
what I tried to delete would come up and

2131
01:37:23,730 --> 01:37:21,310
for ya you know I I don't think it is

2132
01:37:26,730 --> 01:37:23,740
anywhere near being secure and let me

2133
01:37:30,360 --> 01:37:26,740
give you another point I go and I delete

2134
01:37:33,030 --> 01:37:30,370
let's say I I want to go work for some

2135
01:37:36,030 --> 01:37:33,040
company right and I go and I delete all

2136
01:37:38,460 --> 01:37:36,040
that crazy partying stuff that I was

2137
01:37:41,940 --> 01:37:38,470
doing in bars you know in Tijuana those

2138
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:41,950
pictures that I posted right and and six

2139
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:46,330
months later I'm trying to apply and I

2140
01:37:48,990 --> 01:37:46,930
think

2141
01:37:51,780 --> 01:37:49,000
that I've safely deleted everything but

2142
01:37:54,060 --> 01:37:51,790
they you know nice forensic background

2143
01:37:57,480 --> 01:37:54,070
check and all of those pictures of me

2144
01:38:00,150 --> 01:37:57,490
and Tijuana are it's still in the public

2145
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:00,160
domain somewhere yeah you know that's

2146
01:38:03,390 --> 01:38:01,930
and that and I think that is my point

2147
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:03,400
that I'm trying to make to the audience

2148
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:07,570
that if your data is never secure you

2149
01:38:10,440 --> 01:38:09,850
can delete whatever you want it is still

2150
01:38:15,210 --> 01:38:10,450
out there

2151
01:38:17,490 --> 01:38:15,220
and with this criminal he's dead

2152
01:38:19,680 --> 01:38:17,500
deceased Steven have Haddock that

2153
01:38:23,480 --> 01:38:19,690
information is still out there even if

2154
01:38:27,090 --> 01:38:23,490
he deleted it before he shot himself yes

2155
01:38:29,430 --> 01:38:27,100
absolutely it is you know it so there's

2156
01:38:32,310 --> 01:38:29,440
and there's multiple services online

2157
01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:32,320
like archive.org which is the Internet

2158
01:38:37,140 --> 01:38:34,330
Archive so if there's information on a

2159
01:38:39,030 --> 01:38:37,150
publicly accessible website that has

2160
01:38:40,770 --> 01:38:39,040
been added to this service which most of

2161
01:38:43,230 --> 01:38:40,780
the major sites Twitter everything else

2162
01:38:46,020 --> 01:38:43,240
has been anything you had posted is

2163
01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:46,030
mirrored on archive.org it's basically

2164
01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:48,370
just an archive of the Internet at any

2165
01:38:53,250 --> 01:38:51,130
given point in time which is a massive

2166
01:38:55,140 --> 01:38:53,260
undertaking but it's there and it's an

2167
01:38:56,880 --> 01:38:55,150
interesting service especially when

2168
01:38:58,500 --> 01:38:56,890
people like politicians post things on

2169
01:39:00,210 --> 01:38:58,510
Twitter's then delete it later and you

2170
01:39:03,360 --> 01:39:00,220
can still go back and look at exactly

2171
01:39:05,790 --> 01:39:03,370
what they posted and went so it's very

2172
01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:05,800
difficult to remove all of that data if

2173
01:39:11,700 --> 01:39:08,290
it's from a private website that is

2174
01:39:14,700 --> 01:39:11,710
behind some sort of a security wall like

2175
01:39:18,150 --> 01:39:14,710
Facebook is and if you make your profile

2176
01:39:21,420 --> 01:39:18,160
private so services like archive.org

2177
01:39:25,260 --> 01:39:21,430
can't index it that does somewhat limit

2178
01:39:27,420 --> 01:39:25,270
how many sites out there will be storing

2179
01:39:29,490 --> 01:39:27,430
your data but you still know that the

2180
01:39:31,650 --> 01:39:29,500
site you put it on could still be

2181
01:39:34,170 --> 01:39:31,660
storing it it's very difficult to remove

2182
01:39:38,070 --> 01:39:34,180
explain to me how that works so what

2183
01:39:40,410 --> 01:39:38,080
you're saying is that there is if you

2184
01:39:43,950 --> 01:39:40,420
pick a date and a time there is an

2185
01:39:46,590 --> 01:39:43,960
actual snapshot of the web that is

2186
01:39:49,590 --> 01:39:46,600
archived the web is that yeah it's

2187
01:39:52,620 --> 01:39:49,600
fantastic actually a really a really fun

2188
01:39:54,870 --> 01:39:52,630
thing to do is go to archive.org pick a

2189
01:39:56,280 --> 01:39:54,880
pick a website and just as a simple one

2190
01:39:59,370 --> 01:39:56,290
you can just pick you know fade the

2191
01:40:02,490 --> 01:39:59,380
black or just go to apple.com or

2192
01:40:04,140 --> 01:40:02,500
go to archive.org putting your URL in

2193
01:40:05,879 --> 01:40:04,150
there if at any point that's been

2194
01:40:08,339 --> 01:40:05,889
indexed it'll give you actually a

2195
01:40:11,129 --> 01:40:08,349
calendar view or you can select the day

2196
01:40:13,410 --> 01:40:11,139
and the time and you can see roughly

2197
01:40:15,450 --> 01:40:13,420
what that website looked like with the

2198
01:40:17,729 --> 01:40:15,460
content the text the pictures everything

2199
01:40:21,450 --> 01:40:17,739
at that exact moment Wow

2200
01:40:24,089 --> 01:40:21,460
I'm here I I have never been to this

2201
01:40:28,919 --> 01:40:24,099
website but it's all here television

2202
01:40:31,770 --> 01:40:28,929
archives feature films spirituality Wow

2203
01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:31,780
community indexes community videos wild

2204
01:40:38,669 --> 01:40:35,170
everything is here okay so I can search

2205
01:40:40,290 --> 01:40:38,679
anything so let's go with let's go with

2206
01:40:45,030 --> 01:40:40,300
dub dub dub Jimmy

2207
01:40:51,990 --> 01:40:45,040
Church radio.com okay let's see how far

2208
01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:52,000
back it will go with really so it's all

2209
01:40:59,700 --> 01:40:54,730
here I'm looking at it here and I can go

2210
01:41:01,890 --> 01:40:59,710
back to 2010 at which I'm doing that

2211
01:41:05,160 --> 01:41:01,900
okay this is uh want to find something

2212
01:41:08,720 --> 01:41:05,170
really crazy take twitter.com slash J

2213
01:41:11,540 --> 01:41:08,730
Church radio go back to 2011

2214
01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:11,550
specifically I'm going to September 21st

2215
01:41:19,439 --> 01:41:16,690
2011 at 1400 in the evening and I can go

2216
01:41:23,129 --> 01:41:19,449
and I can see what your Twitter page

2217
01:41:24,899 --> 01:41:23,139
looked like at that time in 2011 are you

2218
01:41:26,790 --> 01:41:24,909
kidding are you so what is my Twitter

2219
01:41:30,510 --> 01:41:26,800
page look like back that let's let's

2220
01:41:33,689 --> 01:41:30,520
pull this up here clicky clicky it's a

2221
01:41:34,379 --> 01:41:33,699
little slow to load up alright here we

2222
01:41:36,660 --> 01:41:34,389
go

2223
01:41:39,149 --> 01:41:36,670
oh it's having a hard time loaded

2224
01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:39,159
actually haven't scripting issues right

2225
01:41:42,149 --> 01:41:40,690
now but normally to load up whatever

2226
01:41:44,430 --> 01:41:42,159
Twitter look like and whatever you've

2227
01:41:45,660 --> 01:41:44,440
got there at that point in time it's not

2228
01:41:47,430 --> 01:41:45,670
gonna give you you know a fully

2229
01:41:49,080 --> 01:41:47,440
functional version of the Internet as it

2230
01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:49,090
currently sits but it gives you a little

2231
01:41:52,890 --> 01:41:50,770
snapshots of individual pages

2232
01:41:55,470 --> 01:41:52,900
yeah I'm looking here so I've got a

2233
01:41:59,250 --> 01:41:55,480
hundred and thirty nine snapshots of my

2234
01:42:04,050 --> 01:41:59,260
original page and here it comes

2235
01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:04,060
wow this is trippy I know right it's a

2236
01:42:08,490 --> 01:42:06,610
little bit crazy and the reality is

2237
01:42:10,740 --> 01:42:08,500
they're not the only one doing this

2238
01:42:12,189 --> 01:42:10,750
google most search engines are doing

2239
01:42:15,430 --> 01:42:12,199
this as well

2240
01:42:17,799 --> 01:42:15,440
they even provide archive services at

2241
01:42:19,270 --> 01:42:17,809
various points in times where you can

2242
01:42:21,219 --> 01:42:19,280
actually see what a particular webpage

2243
01:42:23,949 --> 01:42:21,229
looked like a little kind of thumbnail

2244
01:42:25,930 --> 01:42:23,959
previews and quick searchable indexes

2245
01:42:29,199 --> 01:42:25,940
from different points in time over the

2246
01:42:31,540 --> 01:42:29,209
years and this is valuable data for them

2247
01:42:33,100 --> 01:42:31,550
they can use that to data mine trends

2248
01:42:34,989 --> 01:42:33,110
they can look at you know what things

2249
01:42:36,609 --> 01:42:34,999
have happened over time this is this is

2250
01:42:38,259 --> 01:42:36,619
valuable data and again all of these

2251
01:42:39,939 --> 01:42:38,269
companies all these organizations

2252
01:42:41,410 --> 01:42:39,949
well archive.org is a little different

2253
01:42:43,359 --> 01:42:41,420
it's more of a public service or

2254
01:42:45,759 --> 01:42:43,369
anything operate off of donations but

2255
01:42:47,649 --> 01:42:45,769
the rest of them they make money off of

2256
01:42:48,850 --> 01:42:47,659
this data it's valuable data for them

2257
01:42:51,669 --> 01:42:48,860
they're not they're not going to delete

2258
01:42:54,069 --> 01:42:51,679
this data it just like all those cell

2259
01:42:56,529 --> 01:42:54,079
phones of people who are taking pictures

2260
01:42:58,810 --> 01:42:56,539
and tweeting about it and and sending

2261
01:43:00,850 --> 01:42:58,820
text messages about this this horrible

2262
01:43:04,500 --> 01:43:00,860
event that Steven paddock was firing at

2263
01:43:07,330 --> 01:43:04,510
people all of that data is still stored

2264
01:43:09,549 --> 01:43:07,340
even if it was wiped off the phones as

2265
01:43:12,279 --> 01:43:09,559
long as that data made it up to the

2266
01:43:14,739 --> 01:43:12,289
cloud any any of those services Apple

2267
01:43:18,640 --> 01:43:14,749
Google Facebook Twitter Yahoo whatever

2268
01:43:21,520 --> 01:43:18,650
it is and even if you go in and delete

2269
01:43:23,620 --> 01:43:21,530
that from your online account in the

2270
01:43:26,410 --> 01:43:23,630
vast majority of cases that data is

2271
01:43:30,459 --> 01:43:26,420
still stored and indexed by that service

2272
01:43:32,319 --> 01:43:30,469
provider so that data can and often in

2273
01:43:34,989 --> 01:43:32,329
cases like this will eventually become

2274
01:43:38,580 --> 01:43:34,999
public because the system administrators

2275
01:43:42,850 --> 01:43:38,590
of those systems have access to it I'm

2276
01:43:47,379 --> 01:43:42,860
so if I'm looking at my information here

2277
01:43:50,459 --> 01:43:47,389
which is pretty scary so if you like

2278
01:43:53,859 --> 01:43:50,469
with a guy like Steven paddock if you

2279
01:43:56,410 --> 01:43:53,869
needed to if you had the specific

2280
01:43:59,169 --> 01:43:56,420
information you had a name place and and

2281
01:44:03,219 --> 01:43:59,179
a Twitter account a Facebook account

2282
01:44:07,089 --> 01:44:03,229
yeah you can actually zero in and get

2283
01:44:09,549 --> 01:44:07,099
his snapshots of his daily activity also

2284
01:44:11,290 --> 01:44:09,559
down to the minute in a 24 hour I was

2285
01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:11,300
just looking here he's a hundred and

2286
01:44:19,419 --> 01:44:15,050
forty nine snapshots of my website on

2287
01:44:20,949 --> 01:44:19,429
one day right exactly it was seeing that

2288
01:44:23,379 --> 01:44:20,959
changes were occurring so it kept

2289
01:44:25,239 --> 01:44:23,389
grabbing more snapshots and this is the

2290
01:44:25,780 --> 01:44:25,249
problem I was running into in trying to

2291
01:44:29,500 --> 01:44:25,790
find it for

2292
01:44:33,810 --> 01:44:29,510
Meishan about mr. Paddick is I couldn't

2293
01:44:37,660 --> 01:44:33,820
find the page to look at the archive for

2294
01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:37,670
no Twitter no URL ver on Facebook for me

2295
01:44:41,830 --> 01:44:40,010
to link to if I could find those URLs I

2296
01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:41,840
could go back over to services like

2297
01:44:45,220 --> 01:44:44,810
archive.org and see what used to be on

2298
01:44:48,430 --> 01:44:45,230
them

2299
01:44:51,100 --> 01:44:48,440
I can't find this person's stuff here's

2300
01:44:54,120 --> 01:44:51,110
another thing that that blows my mind he

2301
01:44:56,800 --> 01:44:54,130
had multiple smartphones right right

2302
01:44:59,800 --> 01:44:56,810
which means wouldn't you think he would

2303
01:45:02,080 --> 01:44:59,810
have a Google account I mean if it one

2304
01:45:03,910 --> 01:45:02,090
of those smartphones odds are was an

2305
01:45:06,130 --> 01:45:03,920
Android phone it's the most popular

2306
01:45:09,310 --> 01:45:06,140
going on odds he has an Android phone

2307
01:45:11,470 --> 01:45:09,320
you cannot have an Android phone and use

2308
01:45:14,410 --> 01:45:11,480
the Google Play Store without a Google

2309
01:45:16,330 --> 01:45:14,420
account which means that there is what's

2310
01:45:18,370 --> 01:45:16,340
called a Google+ account which is a

2311
01:45:20,620 --> 01:45:18,380
which is the Google social media thing

2312
01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:20,630
even if he's never used it the account

2313
01:45:26,920 --> 01:45:24,770
exists where the heck is it look

2314
01:45:29,350 --> 01:45:26,930
everywhere for the darn thing I can't

2315
01:45:31,780 --> 01:45:29,360
find it if I could find it we could look

2316
01:45:34,180 --> 01:45:31,790
at things like any reviews he's made

2317
01:45:36,280 --> 01:45:34,190
that sort of thing now we know that this

2318
01:45:37,990 --> 01:45:36,290
is the kind of guy so the the room he

2319
01:45:39,910 --> 01:45:38,000
was checked into that night was comped

2320
01:45:42,430 --> 01:45:39,920
to him right mm-hmm it was comped to him

2321
01:45:44,860 --> 01:45:42,440
because he was a heavy gambler those are

2322
01:45:47,230 --> 01:45:44,870
the kind of people that well they make

2323
01:45:49,300 --> 01:45:47,240
reviews they post reviews because you

2324
01:45:51,060 --> 01:45:49,310
post reviews in places and sometimes you

2325
01:45:55,510 --> 01:45:51,070
know they give you a little kickbacks

2326
01:45:58,330 --> 01:45:55,520
there's no reviews anywhere for anything

2327
01:46:00,520 --> 01:45:58,340
that I can find and that is very very

2328
01:46:02,920 --> 01:46:00,530
confusing to me I mean even me I am

2329
01:46:04,570 --> 01:46:02,930
privacy conscious again right right I

2330
01:46:07,750 --> 01:46:04,580
don't have a simple hat on it's

2331
01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:07,760
impossible it's impossible yeah you can

2332
01:46:13,050 --> 01:46:09,650
find so much stuff on me that I've

2333
01:46:16,690 --> 01:46:13,060
reviewed and I try not to review things

2334
01:46:20,080 --> 01:46:16,700
find this guy stuff is it possible to go

2335
01:46:23,050 --> 01:46:20,090
and wipe this guy's history is it

2336
01:46:26,050 --> 01:46:23,060
possible to go in be I would think that

2337
01:46:28,360 --> 01:46:26,060
there are so many places to go and erase

2338
01:46:30,790 --> 01:46:28,370
you couldn't do them all but now it

2339
01:46:34,990 --> 01:46:30,800
appears is not possible to do them all

2340
01:46:37,060 --> 01:46:35,000
however however some of these are very

2341
01:46:39,129 --> 01:46:37,070
easy and low-hanging fruit

2342
01:46:41,500 --> 01:46:39,139
getting rid of a the public press

2343
01:46:43,899 --> 01:46:41,510
on Facebook or Google that's easy to do

2344
01:46:46,120 --> 01:46:43,909
right right it's not easy to do is to

2345
01:46:48,459 --> 01:46:46,130
get rid of all the backups of it so this

2346
01:46:51,100 --> 01:46:48,469
is this is where we're at right now that

2347
01:46:52,949 --> 01:46:51,110
data is not publicly accessible to you

2348
01:46:55,959 --> 01:46:52,959
right now at least it doesn't seem so

2349
01:46:58,689 --> 01:46:55,969
which is strange but there is very

2350
01:47:01,479 --> 01:46:58,699
little likelihood that there that the

2351
01:47:04,479 --> 01:47:01,489
manpower was already in place right

2352
01:47:07,770 --> 01:47:04,489
actually delete the backups for it so

2353
01:47:14,319 --> 01:47:07,780
the backups have to exist currently so

2354
01:47:17,350 --> 01:47:14,329
it appears that he was erased before the

2355
01:47:19,770 --> 01:47:17,360
shooting now that that was my guess as

2356
01:47:23,080 --> 01:47:19,780
well that's that's what it appears to be

2357
01:47:25,330 --> 01:47:23,090
so therefore somebody knew that this

2358
01:47:28,830 --> 01:47:25,340
shooting was gonna happen before it

2359
01:47:32,649 --> 01:47:28,840
happened they have the shooter so

2360
01:47:35,469 --> 01:47:32,659
forensic ly I love that word they were

2361
01:47:38,679 --> 01:47:35,479
probably working on this not for days

2362
01:47:42,540 --> 01:47:38,689
but maybe weeks or months to make sure

2363
01:47:45,399 --> 01:47:42,550
that his history was cleared out

2364
01:47:48,569 --> 01:47:45,409
everywhere because there is nothing on

2365
01:47:52,029 --> 01:47:48,579
this guy and you know if you have a

2366
01:47:54,609 --> 01:47:52,039
five-year-old son or daughter they

2367
01:47:58,000 --> 01:47:54,619
already have an internet presence they

2368
01:48:01,870 --> 01:47:58,010
do their data has been sold a thousand

2369
01:48:03,310 --> 01:48:01,880
times right by there right it's

2370
01:48:04,929 --> 01:48:03,320
absolutely true yeah I mean I've got

2371
01:48:06,339 --> 01:48:04,939
might my daughter is six and yeah

2372
01:48:07,959 --> 01:48:06,349
there's pictures of hair all over the

2373
01:48:09,699 --> 01:48:07,969
place that there's no way I can get off

2374
01:48:14,290 --> 01:48:09,709
the internet completely no you can't do

2375
01:48:17,109 --> 01:48:14,300
it so if this guy has been and if there

2376
01:48:21,669 --> 01:48:17,119
has throughout the years and our little

2377
01:48:24,040 --> 01:48:21,679
conspiracy world there has been many

2378
01:48:27,729 --> 01:48:24,050
people that have come forward that have

2379
01:48:31,859 --> 01:48:27,739
claimed I'll bring a famous one Bob

2380
01:48:35,259 --> 01:48:31,869
Lazar right Yeah right the the area 51

2381
01:48:37,810 --> 01:48:35,269
whistleblower and he said you know what

2382
01:48:40,359 --> 01:48:37,820
man they just they wiped out my past my

2383
01:48:43,239 --> 01:48:40,369
college history they went in it and and

2384
01:48:45,339 --> 01:48:43,249
we would often laugh at that that would

2385
01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:45,349
be impossible to do impossible to do

2386
01:48:52,640 --> 01:48:48,530
here we have this guy right we have his

2387
01:48:55,580 --> 01:48:52,650
name in 2017 that should

2388
01:48:57,290 --> 01:48:55,590
have an imprint of his life all over the

2389
01:48:59,630 --> 01:48:57,300
place and there's nothing on this guy

2390
01:49:01,780 --> 01:48:59,640
how can you have two photographs on the

2391
01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:01,790
Internet today

2392
01:49:06,669 --> 01:49:04,610
when you have multiple smartphones yeah

2393
01:49:07,850 --> 01:49:06,679
how is that even physically possible

2394
01:49:14,450 --> 01:49:07,860
okay

2395
01:49:14,930 --> 01:49:14,460
has got five thousand pictures on the

2396
01:49:17,899 --> 01:49:14,940
Internet

2397
01:49:20,209 --> 01:49:17,909
oh yeah okay oh yeah anybody that you

2398
01:49:21,979 --> 01:49:20,219
point a finger at this guy and here we

2399
01:49:24,459 --> 01:49:21,989
have somebody like this who was gambling

2400
01:49:28,030 --> 01:49:24,469
allegedly a million dollars a night

2401
01:49:31,820 --> 01:49:28,040
which is what he said in a deposition

2402
01:49:34,010 --> 01:49:31,830
ten thousand dollars a hand and he

2403
01:49:37,640 --> 01:49:34,020
doesn't have the the two pictures on the

2404
01:49:40,160 --> 01:49:37,650
net are some crazy facial shot the other

2405
01:49:42,740 --> 01:49:40,170
one his eyes are closed it looks like it

2406
01:49:45,050 --> 01:49:42,750
was pulled off a video but there is no

2407
01:49:48,080 --> 01:49:45,060
internet footprint anywhere fingerprint

2408
01:49:51,110 --> 01:49:48,090
of this guy anywhere anywhere so is it

2409
01:49:54,140 --> 01:49:51,120
again I have to say it how difficult is

2410
01:49:57,290 --> 01:49:54,150
it to erase the digital information on a

2411
01:50:00,020 --> 01:49:57,300
US citizen everywhere on the Internet I

2412
01:50:01,280 --> 01:50:00,030
would say it's impossible unless you

2413
01:50:04,399 --> 01:50:01,290
worked at it for a couple of months

2414
01:50:08,570 --> 01:50:04,409
before his identity was gonna get leaked

2415
01:50:10,790 --> 01:50:08,580
to the world yeah I think I think you

2416
01:50:13,490 --> 01:50:10,800
know me man I like to deal and only the

2417
01:50:15,740 --> 01:50:13,500
facts I can verify right and I I always

2418
01:50:17,419 --> 01:50:15,750
hate to jump in and say uh you know

2419
01:50:19,459 --> 01:50:17,429
there's a conspiracy here unless I can

2420
01:50:21,860 --> 01:50:19,469
get my hands on facts but you're right

2421
01:50:24,200 --> 01:50:21,870
the only way to do this is if you

2422
01:50:27,410 --> 01:50:24,210
dedicate serious well-trained

2423
01:50:29,180 --> 01:50:27,420
well-connected manpower for months to

2424
01:50:31,850 --> 01:50:29,190
make sure this happens that's the only

2425
01:50:33,290 --> 01:50:31,860
way to pull that off I can't think of

2426
01:50:36,770 --> 01:50:33,300
another way it's certainly not something

2427
01:50:38,570 --> 01:50:36,780
you can do spur the moment in just a day

2428
01:50:40,399 --> 01:50:38,580
or two it's just it's not doable let

2429
01:50:44,300 --> 01:50:40,409
alone a couple of hours it's it's simply

2430
01:50:47,240 --> 01:50:44,310
not - of all I and the other part of it

2431
01:50:50,570 --> 01:50:47,250
which which I find really really strange

2432
01:50:52,910 --> 01:50:50,580
it's it's difficult these days when you

2433
01:50:54,740 --> 01:50:52,920
have a smartphone you gonna need to take

2434
01:50:56,180 --> 01:50:54,750
a couple of pictures and then you go and

2435
01:50:58,669 --> 01:50:56,190
you look at your smartphone and it's

2436
01:51:02,479 --> 01:50:58,679
literally trying to upload it to the web

2437
01:51:05,419 --> 01:51:02,489
it's it's trying to do that and if you

2438
01:51:07,310 --> 01:51:05,429
and and most be at most people and when

2439
01:51:09,530 --> 01:51:07,320
I say most I mean

2440
01:51:13,310 --> 01:51:09,540
the billions that are on Facebook and

2441
01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:13,320
snapchat in Twitter that the these

2442
01:51:18,650 --> 01:51:16,410
programs in your cell phone as soon as

2443
01:51:21,830 --> 01:51:18,660
you take a picture it's trying to upload

2444
01:51:24,950 --> 01:51:21,840
that on to the web it's trying to do

2445
01:51:27,760 --> 01:51:24,960
that all of your data on an iPhone all

2446
01:51:32,210 --> 01:51:27,770
of your data it is constantly trying to

2447
01:51:36,290 --> 01:51:32,220
get it off of your phone to iCloud it's

2448
01:51:38,540 --> 01:51:36,300
it's its job right that's that's the way

2449
01:51:40,970 --> 01:51:38,550
the services are designed they bits

2450
01:51:43,610 --> 01:51:40,980
that's how they function so all again

2451
01:51:46,160 --> 01:51:43,620
it's not just and it's not just Stephen

2452
01:51:48,080 --> 01:51:46,170
paddocks phones right Stephens paddocks

2453
01:51:50,270 --> 01:51:48,090
phones yes all that data is going up

2454
01:51:52,370 --> 01:51:50,280
there all the time all the people that

2455
01:51:54,230 --> 01:51:52,380
were watching this event unfold that

2456
01:51:56,780 --> 01:51:54,240
data was going up there all the time

2457
01:52:00,920 --> 01:51:56,790
they snap a picture that data is being

2458
01:52:03,830 --> 01:52:00,930
upload over 4G pretty darn fast even in

2459
01:52:05,710 --> 01:52:03,840
an area that's as congested as that the

2460
01:52:08,060 --> 01:52:05,720
data speeds are pretty good they're

2461
01:52:10,190 --> 01:52:08,070
those that didn't those photos were

2462
01:52:12,350 --> 01:52:10,200
uploaded and when they get uploaded they

2463
01:52:14,210 --> 01:52:12,360
don't just exist on one little hard

2464
01:52:16,700 --> 01:52:14,220
drive somewhere they instantly get

2465
01:52:19,070 --> 01:52:16,710
mirrored across many many hard drives

2466
01:52:21,500 --> 01:52:19,080
through multiple data centers and backed

2467
01:52:23,930 --> 01:52:21,510
up very regularly and that data

2468
01:52:26,560 --> 01:52:23,940
continues to propagate and propagate and

2469
01:52:31,610 --> 01:52:26,570
propagate getting that data removed is a

2470
01:52:33,320 --> 01:52:31,620
massive massive undertaking and maybe if

2471
01:52:35,540 --> 01:52:33,330
we hadn't they had months to do it with

2472
01:52:37,310 --> 01:52:35,550
for Steven paddock it might be doable

2473
01:52:39,380 --> 01:52:37,320
will they have overlooked something

2474
01:52:41,150 --> 01:52:39,390
somewhere most likely because there's a

2475
01:52:42,380 --> 01:52:41,160
lot of data out there on everyone even

2476
01:52:46,400 --> 01:52:42,390
people who try to stay off the internet

2477
01:52:49,130 --> 01:52:46,410
but all those cell phones that watch the

2478
01:52:51,680 --> 01:52:49,140
event unfold they have not had enough

2479
01:52:54,020 --> 01:52:51,690
time there is just no way they've had

2480
01:52:56,510 --> 01:52:54,030
enough time to get all those backups

2481
01:52:59,360 --> 01:52:56,520
from those online services deleted it

2482
01:53:01,160 --> 01:52:59,370
has to exist at this point now let's

2483
01:53:03,050 --> 01:53:01,170
turn it around and go in the other

2484
01:53:04,970 --> 01:53:03,060
direction and we'll discuss this in the

2485
01:53:09,410 --> 01:53:04,980
next segment and we'll take some phone

2486
01:53:13,670 --> 01:53:09,420
calls too but is this how how easy is it

2487
01:53:17,390 --> 01:53:13,680
how secure is your iPhone how secure is

2488
01:53:19,729 --> 01:53:17,400
your Android phone and if the

2489
01:53:22,399 --> 01:53:19,739
authorities know we all know about

2490
01:53:24,290 --> 01:53:22,409
the San Bernardino you know when what

2491
01:53:27,530 --> 01:53:24,300
they went through with Apple to hack

2492
01:53:31,220 --> 01:53:27,540
that phone but it got hacked how easy is

2493
01:53:32,990 --> 01:53:31,230
it to hack a phone today preposterous ly

2494
01:53:34,910 --> 01:53:33,000
easy are you familiar with the crack

2495
01:53:38,270 --> 01:53:34,920
attack that just occurred that we just

2496
01:53:40,899 --> 01:53:38,280
got announced about a day ago yes I read

2497
01:53:43,430 --> 01:53:40,909
a little bit about it this is

2498
01:53:47,080 --> 01:53:43,440
delightfully interesting so in the

2499
01:53:50,660 --> 01:53:47,090
perverse diversion of delight crack ka

2500
01:53:52,669 --> 01:53:50,670
kr ACK if you go look that up basically

2501
01:53:55,370 --> 01:53:52,679
what has happened is there is a

2502
01:53:58,550 --> 01:53:55,380
vulnerability in the way Wi-Fi security

2503
01:54:03,350 --> 01:53:58,560
works in wpa2 protection so if you have

2504
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:03,360
a password on your hotspots um or or the

2505
01:54:08,540 --> 01:54:07,290
like it is extremely easy to break

2506
01:54:10,430 --> 01:54:08,550
through that using this particular

2507
01:54:12,979 --> 01:54:10,440
attack this is not the first attack of

2508
01:54:15,860 --> 01:54:12,989
this kind to come out and most of these

2509
01:54:19,010 --> 01:54:15,870
attacks crack included are known about

2510
01:54:21,260 --> 01:54:19,020
by the government for a long time often

2511
01:54:25,250 --> 01:54:21,270
years before it becomes public knowledge

2512
01:54:27,620 --> 01:54:25,260
which means it is extremely easy for any

2513
01:54:30,260 --> 01:54:27,630
agency who has that information about

2514
01:54:33,080 --> 01:54:30,270
how to initiate that sort of attack to

2515
01:54:34,520 --> 01:54:33,090
gain access to your Wi-Fi routers your

2516
01:54:38,840 --> 01:54:34,530
cell phones your computers it's

2517
01:54:41,720 --> 01:54:38,850
extraordinary easy astoundingly easy

2518
01:54:43,729 --> 01:54:41,730
even if you do the right thing and

2519
01:54:45,740 --> 01:54:43,739
secure your routers with really long

2520
01:54:47,570 --> 01:54:45,750
passwords it's it's just simply not

2521
01:54:50,240 --> 01:54:47,580
enough and the same is true of just

2522
01:54:53,720 --> 01:54:50,250
simply on your cell phones as well there

2523
01:54:55,910 --> 01:54:53,730
really is no way to secure it there is a

2524
01:54:57,950 --> 01:54:55,920
with inside your cell phone is something

2525
01:55:00,500 --> 01:54:57,960
called the base band and the base band

2526
01:55:02,479 --> 01:55:00,510
is a closed-down basically think of it

2527
01:55:05,209 --> 01:55:02,489
like a little mini system that resides

2528
01:55:06,830 --> 01:55:05,219
inside your phone it's locked down you

2529
01:55:10,010 --> 01:55:06,840
have no idea what it's doing at any

2530
01:55:13,430 --> 01:55:10,020
point in time and it has entire complete

2531
01:55:15,740 --> 01:55:13,440
access to everything on your phone all

2532
01:55:17,660 --> 01:55:15,750
Edythe an authority has to do is get

2533
01:55:20,750 --> 01:55:17,670
access to the base band and they can

2534
01:55:22,939 --> 01:55:20,760
fully control your phone and from our

2535
01:55:25,610 --> 01:55:22,949
understanding they the NSA and other

2536
01:55:29,240 --> 01:55:25,620
agencies do have that full access so

2537
01:55:31,459 --> 01:55:29,250
there really is no actual security from

2538
01:55:33,620 --> 01:55:31,469
anyone who has access to these portions

2539
01:55:36,500 --> 01:55:33,630
of your phone there just simply isn't

2540
01:55:41,090 --> 01:55:36,510
is when somebody thinks that they've got

2541
01:55:44,390 --> 01:55:41,100
the the coolest passkey right yeah when

2542
01:55:47,930 --> 01:55:44,400
they when they announced the iPhone 8

2543
01:55:51,500 --> 01:55:47,940
and they actually said that your

2544
01:55:54,379 --> 01:55:51,510
thumbprint or fingerprint is not secure

2545
01:55:56,959 --> 01:55:54,389
right that one it's only one in fifty

2546
01:55:57,860 --> 01:55:56,969
thousand now that that that kind of

2547
01:56:01,520 --> 01:55:57,870
freaked me out

2548
01:56:03,439 --> 01:56:01,530
I didn't I didn't know I I thought that

2549
01:56:05,180 --> 01:56:03,449
the the scanning that was happening on

2550
01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:05,190
the little the little pad on the bottom

2551
01:56:09,950 --> 01:56:08,010
of the phone was actually reading just

2552
01:56:13,129 --> 01:56:09,960
my fingerprint I know that my

2553
01:56:15,890 --> 01:56:13,139
fingerprint isn't 1 in 50,000 but 1 in

2554
01:56:18,140 --> 01:56:15,900
50,000 can actually punch this and

2555
01:56:20,060 --> 01:56:18,150
that's what they're telling you yeah I'm

2556
01:56:23,270 --> 01:56:20,070
not buying that it's obviously not

2557
01:56:27,260 --> 01:56:23,280
secure at all not at all right not at

2558
01:56:29,270 --> 01:56:27,270
all so let's take a break right here I

2559
01:56:30,890 --> 01:56:29,280
want to continue this because it's one

2560
01:56:34,250 --> 01:56:30,900
of the most fascinating parts about this

2561
01:56:38,750 --> 01:56:34,260
is how secure is your iPhone how secure

2562
01:56:41,570 --> 01:56:38,760
was pattex iPhone well not very or and

2563
01:56:43,910 --> 01:56:41,580
and let's discuss Android when we come

2564
01:56:45,919 --> 01:56:43,920
back hacking the El Las Vegas shooter

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01:56:48,050 --> 01:56:45,929
I'm arrows Jimmy church this is fade to

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black more of Brian one Duke right after

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this short break stay with us

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Jimmy Church follow me on twitter at JDO

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we're talking about hacking the Las

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Vegas shooter how easy is it to get to

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data mine all of his information and I

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02:01:30,400 --> 02:01:29,120
want to share something with the

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02:01:32,830 --> 02:01:30,410
audience really quick we don't have to

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spend a lot of time on this but you and

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I were shooting for my new show on

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and I'll send you some some of it it's

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brilliant to watch when it was edited

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through but anyway our segment was on

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02:01:55,050 --> 02:01:52,100
surveillance right yeah yeah and I

2668
02:01:59,410 --> 02:01:55,060
turned to Brian this is for the audio

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02:02:01,120 --> 02:01:59,420
scenes thing so we're on a break maybe I

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think we are on lunch break with the

2671
02:02:04,870 --> 02:02:03,140
crew and I turn to you and I go bye

2672
02:02:06,190 --> 02:02:04,880
ma'am now what's your cell phone and

2673
02:02:08,350 --> 02:02:06,200
you're like dude I don't have a cell

2674
02:02:10,600 --> 02:02:08,360
phone it's the most unsecure thing in

2675
02:02:12,100 --> 02:02:10,610
the world and I was like who doesn't

2676
02:02:15,400 --> 02:02:12,110
have a cell phone these days you were

2677
02:02:19,780 --> 02:02:15,410
like me man I I carry a tablet but I

2678
02:02:22,030 --> 02:02:19,790
have no cell phone when we come and well

2679
02:02:24,670 --> 02:02:22,040
actually Brian tell tell the audience

2680
02:02:27,070 --> 02:02:24,680
yes that's exactly what happened that is

2681
02:02:31,990 --> 02:02:27,080
that that's verbatim pretty much exactly

2682
02:02:35,350 --> 02:02:32,000
what F so the Las Vegas shooter he's got

2683
02:02:38,890 --> 02:02:35,360
let's say he's got an Android and an

2684
02:02:43,840 --> 02:02:38,900
Apple in that hotel room how which is

2685
02:02:45,790 --> 02:02:43,850
more secure of the two neither really

2686
02:02:47,620 --> 02:02:45,800
that's secure I mean it's it's kind of

2687
02:02:50,110 --> 02:02:47,630
like saying which is easier to smash

2688
02:02:52,120 --> 02:02:50,120
with your foot an apple or an orange I

2689
02:02:54,130 --> 02:02:52,130
mean it's there they're both pretty

2690
02:02:55,840 --> 02:02:54,140
straightforward to gain full and

2691
02:02:57,910 --> 02:02:55,850
complete access to especially if you

2692
02:02:59,920 --> 02:02:57,920
have physical access to the device you

2693
02:03:02,560 --> 02:02:59,930
can get all of the data that's on it

2694
02:03:04,990 --> 02:03:02,570
that's just all there is to it getting

2695
02:03:07,450 --> 02:03:05,000
access to them remotely isn't terribly

2696
02:03:09,670 --> 02:03:07,460
difficult either if you have access to

2697
02:03:14,410 --> 02:03:09,680
either the baseband chip which the NSA

2698
02:03:16,840 --> 02:03:14,420
does or you just have some sort of a leg

2699
02:03:19,180 --> 02:03:16,850
in somewhere so either an application

2700
02:03:20,880 --> 02:03:19,190
stalled on it that isn't terribly secure

2701
02:03:24,090 --> 02:03:20,890
of which there are countless

2702
02:03:26,220 --> 02:03:24,100
or you have a kind of a backdoor in

2703
02:03:28,020 --> 02:03:26,230
through either Google or Apple services

2704
02:03:29,460 --> 02:03:28,030
it's really pretty straightforward if

2705
02:03:31,740 --> 02:03:29,470
you need if you really need to get

2706
02:03:34,560 --> 02:03:31,750
access to someone's phone it's not hard

2707
02:03:36,120 --> 02:03:34,570
to do well well you know the FBI when

2708
02:03:40,620 --> 02:03:36,130
they were going through the San

2709
02:03:42,210 --> 02:03:40,630
Bernardino shooters iPhone and trying to

2710
02:03:44,460 --> 02:03:42,220
get that unlock that took a couple of

2711
02:03:49,230 --> 02:03:44,470
weeks but now they knew how to do it

2712
02:03:51,210 --> 02:03:49,240
they went through Israel and they found

2713
02:03:54,390 --> 02:03:51,220
an Israeli agency to do it for them yeah

2714
02:03:59,100 --> 02:03:54,400
for a fee and and it was unlocked pretty

2715
02:04:01,830 --> 02:03:59,110
quickly but but today the FBI and all of

2716
02:04:06,330 --> 02:04:01,840
the agencies now know the process to get

2717
02:04:08,870 --> 02:04:06,340
through this let's say it was an iPhone

2718
02:04:11,790 --> 02:04:08,880
or let's say it was a locked Android

2719
02:04:14,970 --> 02:04:11,800
inside that hotel room how many minutes

2720
02:04:17,220 --> 02:04:14,980
does it take now to unlock and have full

2721
02:04:19,410 --> 02:04:17,230
access to a cell phone you know you know

2722
02:04:21,210 --> 02:04:19,420
it's not something that you can normally

2723
02:04:23,280 --> 02:04:21,220
do in just a couple of minutes I mean

2724
02:04:25,470 --> 02:04:23,290
unless it's left in a fairly insecure

2725
02:04:27,720 --> 02:04:25,480
state like with an easy to break through

2726
02:04:30,330 --> 02:04:27,730
password or or if someone was silly

2727
02:04:32,640 --> 02:04:30,340
enough to just use like the little the

2728
02:04:34,980 --> 02:04:32,650
little numeric combination of like four

2729
02:04:36,770 --> 02:04:34,990
numbers to open it up in those cases you

2730
02:04:39,450 --> 02:04:36,780
can just bust right in in a few minutes

2731
02:04:40,860 --> 02:04:39,460
but realistically if it's locked down

2732
02:04:41,640 --> 02:04:40,870
with a good password or something like

2733
02:04:43,290 --> 02:04:41,650
that it you know

2734
02:04:44,580 --> 02:04:43,300
realistically it can take a couple of

2735
02:04:45,900 --> 02:04:44,590
hours if someone just really sitting

2736
02:04:48,330 --> 02:04:45,910
down and working on it so it's not

2737
02:04:54,840 --> 02:04:48,340
something that you normally are gonna do

2738
02:04:57,420 --> 02:04:54,850
instantaneously a couple more what a

2739
02:05:00,300 --> 02:04:57,430
quicker way to go in is if you can get

2740
02:05:03,600 --> 02:05:00,310
or not necessary to go in but to retain

2741
02:05:06,510 --> 02:05:03,610
the majority of data on the device is to

2742
02:05:09,630 --> 02:05:06,520
directly work with one of the companies

2743
02:05:12,270 --> 02:05:09,640
that already has applications on the

2744
02:05:13,590 --> 02:05:12,280
device that have a large amount of data

2745
02:05:16,500 --> 02:05:13,600
that's being collected so if you have an

2746
02:05:18,360 --> 02:05:16,510
Android device let's say it's already

2747
02:05:21,030 --> 02:05:18,370
collecting all your Google Maps

2748
02:05:23,820 --> 02:05:21,040
information so you have location Gmail

2749
02:05:25,290 --> 02:05:23,830
for all your email Google photos for all

2750
02:05:27,750 --> 02:05:25,300
your photos and videos that are getting

2751
02:05:29,760 --> 02:05:27,760
uploaded all that good stuff you know it

2752
02:05:32,070 --> 02:05:29,770
automatically stores and collects all of

2753
02:05:33,979 --> 02:05:32,080
your web traffic and your website

2754
02:05:35,989 --> 02:05:33,989
browsing history since all

2755
02:05:37,819 --> 02:05:35,999
that's being story anyway a quicker way

2756
02:05:41,629 --> 02:05:37,829
to get all that data is to just simply

2757
02:05:43,669 --> 02:05:41,639
go to Google and say gimme if you are if

2758
02:05:45,109 --> 02:05:43,679
you're the United States government you

2759
02:05:46,939 --> 02:05:45,119
can kind of do that you know if you're

2760
02:05:48,890 --> 02:05:46,949
you or me you haven't kind of have to go

2761
02:05:50,629 --> 02:05:48,900
brute-force through the front door by

2762
02:05:52,430 --> 02:05:50,639
working on the actual phone itself which

2763
02:05:54,080 --> 02:05:52,440
can take them more than just a couple of

2764
02:05:55,729 --> 02:05:54,090
minutes but if you're the US government

2765
02:05:57,109 --> 02:05:55,739
you just go straight to Google or you go

2766
02:05:59,450 --> 02:05:57,119
straight to Apple or whoever is

2767
02:06:01,399 --> 02:05:59,460
whoever's got the data that you want

2768
02:06:03,649 --> 02:06:01,409
since it like you said most of it just

2769
02:06:06,799 --> 02:06:03,659
gets uploaded to the quote/unquote cloud

2770
02:06:08,899 --> 02:06:06,809
so quickly just go to that cloud account

2771
02:06:10,489 --> 02:06:08,909
and get all that data right where it

2772
02:06:12,529 --> 02:06:10,499
sits on the drive it's just so much

2773
02:06:15,529 --> 02:06:12,539
easier and then you can usually use that

2774
02:06:18,259 --> 02:06:15,539
to kind of work your way back into the

2775
02:06:22,970 --> 02:06:18,269
rest of the phone and then there's the

2776
02:06:25,100 --> 02:06:22,980
other part that some conspiracy groups

2777
02:06:27,410 --> 02:06:25,110
out there are running around with which

2778
02:06:29,720 --> 02:06:27,420
is that he was the reason why he didn't

2779
02:06:31,580 --> 02:06:29,730
have a facebook history or Twitter or

2780
02:06:34,700 --> 02:06:31,590
Instagram or anything else it was

2781
02:06:36,500 --> 02:06:34,710
because he had another name well all of

2782
02:06:38,600 --> 02:06:36,510
that account information is stored

2783
02:06:42,080 --> 02:06:38,610
locally on a computer or a cell phone

2784
02:06:45,049 --> 02:06:42,090
yeah so he did have another name we

2785
02:06:47,770 --> 02:06:45,059
already know it I mean there's there's

2786
02:06:51,169 --> 02:06:47,780
always the possibility that this guy was

2787
02:06:53,209 --> 02:06:51,179
basically a security genius and he's

2788
02:06:55,310 --> 02:06:53,219
locked down his machines he's using the

2789
02:06:57,709 --> 02:06:55,320
right operating systems he's he's

2790
02:06:59,930 --> 02:06:57,719
blowing away his his Drive images

2791
02:07:02,600 --> 02:06:59,940
regularly to keep his data as secure

2792
02:07:04,549 --> 02:07:02,610
he's using tor and and multiple networks

2793
02:07:06,500 --> 02:07:04,559
to mask his data you know there's always

2794
02:07:09,950 --> 02:07:06,510
that possibility but even in that

2795
02:07:13,310 --> 02:07:09,960
scenario that highly unlikely scenario

2796
02:07:17,330 --> 02:07:13,320
for for the 64 year-old avid gambler to

2797
02:07:19,850 --> 02:07:17,340
do it there's always still gonna be

2798
02:07:21,739 --> 02:07:19,860
bread crumbs there's always still a way

2799
02:07:24,379 --> 02:07:21,749
to trace that data back it's very

2800
02:07:26,899 --> 02:07:24,389
difficult to be fully anonymous very

2801
02:07:30,859 --> 02:07:26,909
very difficult now I brought this up at

2802
02:07:33,470 --> 02:07:30,869
the beginning of the show and do you

2803
02:07:36,290 --> 02:07:33,480
remember the movie The Departed yeah

2804
02:07:38,379 --> 02:07:36,300
okay so DiCaprio you know he goes deep

2805
02:07:42,770 --> 02:07:38,389
undercover nobody knows he's actually

2806
02:07:44,750 --> 02:07:42,780
you know and if only one person knew or

2807
02:07:46,770 --> 02:07:44,760
two people knew and if anything happened

2808
02:07:48,510 --> 02:07:46,780
to them he would be you know complete

2809
02:07:49,860 --> 02:07:48,520
be anonymous and he would have no claims

2810
02:07:52,380 --> 02:07:49,870
to anything and so forth

2811
02:07:54,930 --> 02:07:52,390
yeah now there's there's part of me that

2812
02:07:56,760 --> 02:07:54,940
that believes something because if it

2813
02:07:57,270 --> 02:07:56,770
was me running undercover I would screw

2814
02:07:59,880 --> 02:07:57,280
it all up

2815
02:08:01,800 --> 02:07:59,890
right no doubt right yeah yeah there's a

2816
02:08:04,890 --> 02:08:01,810
reason you and I are not secret agent

2817
02:08:09,630 --> 02:08:04,900
right right exactly exactly but in this

2818
02:08:13,140 --> 02:08:09,640
case with paddock could it be just that

2819
02:08:15,840 --> 02:08:13,150
that they they are not speaking about

2820
02:08:18,030 --> 02:08:15,850
his past because he was so deep

2821
02:08:20,340 --> 02:08:18,040
undercover running under another name

2822
02:08:23,130 --> 02:08:20,350
probably another social security number

2823
02:08:25,380 --> 02:08:23,140
that none of this information is there

2824
02:08:27,950 --> 02:08:25,390
and they are trying to cover up the fact

2825
02:08:30,570 --> 02:08:27,960
that he was running undercover and

2826
02:08:34,710 --> 02:08:30,580
they're they're part of me wants to

2827
02:08:36,150 --> 02:08:34,720
believe that anonymous allegedly has has

2828
02:08:37,920 --> 02:08:36,160
leaked some stuff and I've read those

2829
02:08:39,990 --> 02:08:37,930
documents the problem that I have with

2830
02:08:42,180 --> 02:08:40,000
that is they went straight to his

2831
02:08:44,520 --> 02:08:42,190
brother using his real name and his

2832
02:08:47,160 --> 02:08:44,530
brother spoke on camera so that kind of

2833
02:08:49,680 --> 02:08:47,170
blows that Deep Cover thing out of the

2834
02:08:51,960 --> 02:08:49,690
water because he's checking into a hotel

2835
02:08:54,810 --> 02:08:51,970
under his real name which doesn't make

2836
02:08:56,670 --> 02:08:54,820
any sense if you want his loyalty cards

2837
02:08:58,860 --> 02:08:56,680
that he's been using for quite some time

2838
02:09:02,130 --> 02:08:58,870
to get his room comped right right right

2839
02:09:05,400 --> 02:09:02,140
I mean so I mean is it is it possible

2840
02:09:09,660 --> 02:09:05,410
that that is it could be a situation

2841
02:09:12,800 --> 02:09:09,670
where he was so undercover that he had

2842
02:09:15,810 --> 02:09:12,810
no internet history do you buy into that

2843
02:09:19,260 --> 02:09:15,820
no simply because he had multiple

2844
02:09:21,720 --> 02:09:19,270
smartphones i Jimmy why would you

2845
02:09:24,390 --> 02:09:21,730
personally have multiple smartphones it

2846
02:09:26,670 --> 02:09:24,400
the only reason I can think to have

2847
02:09:28,860 --> 02:09:26,680
multiple smartphones nowadays instead of

2848
02:09:31,980 --> 02:09:28,870
investing in one really awesome one is

2849
02:09:34,200 --> 02:09:31,990
to you know have two different kind of

2850
02:09:36,930 --> 02:09:34,210
identities to even if they're not

2851
02:09:39,480 --> 02:09:36,940
officially different people identity is

2852
02:09:41,340 --> 02:09:39,490
just two different lives that you lead

2853
02:09:43,110 --> 02:09:41,350
for I know if you want to make sure that

2854
02:09:45,180 --> 02:09:43,120
your work stays separate from your play

2855
02:09:47,460 --> 02:09:45,190
maybe you've got two smartphones well he

2856
02:09:50,340 --> 02:09:47,470
didn't he was retired so why would he

2857
02:09:52,500 --> 02:09:50,350
why would he need that you know he

2858
02:09:54,840 --> 02:09:52,510
didn't have any kids you know he he had

2859
02:09:56,940 --> 02:09:54,850
a girlfriend he wasn't even married so

2860
02:10:00,400 --> 02:09:56,950
why would he why would he need that

2861
02:10:02,110 --> 02:10:00,410
separate life so that's that's one thing

2862
02:10:03,370 --> 02:10:02,120
raises a red flag for me right there and

2863
02:10:06,070 --> 02:10:03,380
it's not even that he had two

2864
02:10:08,650 --> 02:10:06,080
smartphones the initial report was that

2865
02:10:10,600 --> 02:10:08,660
he had multiple smartphones and that

2866
02:10:12,580 --> 02:10:10,610
there was one additional cell phone

2867
02:10:14,800 --> 02:10:12,590
charger that they couldn't account for a

2868
02:10:16,750 --> 02:10:14,810
phone that could plug into it and then

2869
02:10:18,040 --> 02:10:16,760
eventually they said they found that

2870
02:10:19,810 --> 02:10:18,050
phone and that all the phones were

2871
02:10:21,570 --> 02:10:19,820
accounted for which suggests to me that

2872
02:10:25,570 --> 02:10:21,580
there was actually three smart phones

2873
02:10:27,370 --> 02:10:25,580
and I've only met one other man in my

2874
02:10:29,080 --> 02:10:27,380
entire life of walking through this

2875
02:10:31,840 --> 02:10:29,090
great green earth of ours that has had

2876
02:10:34,360 --> 02:10:31,850
three cell phones and that was the man

2877
02:10:36,250 --> 02:10:34,370
who actually invented cell phones I met

2878
02:10:38,170 --> 02:10:36,260
him at a at a Star Trek conference one

2879
02:10:39,970 --> 02:10:38,180
time and he was the inventor of friggin

2880
02:10:41,680 --> 02:10:39,980
cell phones and he had three but that

2881
02:10:43,510 --> 02:10:41,690
was just because that was his life I've

2882
02:10:46,300 --> 02:10:43,520
never met anyone else who who had that

2883
02:10:49,030 --> 02:10:46,310
well too but you know what I'll confess

2884
02:10:51,220 --> 02:10:49,040
now the reason why I do it is I have one

2885
02:10:53,200 --> 02:10:51,230
phone with a phone number that I hand

2886
02:10:55,750 --> 02:10:53,210
out to people with my business card and

2887
02:10:58,270 --> 02:10:55,760
a phone number on it and so they call it

2888
02:11:01,150 --> 02:10:58,280
but I never answer it and it goes to

2889
02:11:02,860 --> 02:11:01,160
voicemail that I never check but you

2890
02:11:04,870 --> 02:11:02,870
know think that they have my real

2891
02:11:07,420 --> 02:11:04,880
business purpose you know like that's

2892
02:11:09,310 --> 02:11:07,430
that's you doing a job that's for a

2893
02:11:10,960 --> 02:11:09,320
specific task that you want to keep

2894
02:11:11,800 --> 02:11:10,970
separate from your life and that makes

2895
02:11:14,230 --> 02:11:11,810
sense right

2896
02:11:16,540 --> 02:11:14,240
but if you're Steven paddock and you

2897
02:11:19,120 --> 02:11:16,550
don't have a job anymore you're retired

2898
02:11:21,430 --> 02:11:19,130
and you're just an avid gambler with a

2899
02:11:23,260 --> 02:11:21,440
girlfriend hangin out in Vegas all the

2900
02:11:25,240 --> 02:11:23,270
time with lots and lots and lots of

2901
02:11:26,890 --> 02:11:25,250
disposable cash because he did that

2902
02:11:28,510 --> 02:11:26,900
whole thing where he wired a hundred

2903
02:11:30,790 --> 02:11:28,520
thousand dollars to the Philippines

2904
02:11:34,090 --> 02:11:30,800
right beforehand now is it there there

2905
02:11:36,640 --> 02:11:34,100
there's a digital chain to that too as

2906
02:11:39,820 --> 02:11:36,650
well yeah yeah there absolutely is

2907
02:11:41,140 --> 02:11:39,830
you know what that what how he did that

2908
02:11:42,670 --> 02:11:41,150
we still don't know that that

2909
02:11:44,680 --> 02:11:42,680
information hasn't been been released

2910
02:11:47,020 --> 02:11:44,690
publicly we just know what the law

2911
02:11:49,930 --> 02:11:47,030
enforcement has told us but but yeah

2912
02:11:51,760 --> 02:11:49,940
there should be a digital trail of what

2913
02:11:55,180 --> 02:11:51,770
account it went to what account it came

2914
02:11:58,450 --> 02:11:55,190
from what device he used when he did

2915
02:12:01,150 --> 02:11:58,460
that transfer what physical location he

2916
02:12:03,550 --> 02:12:01,160
was at when he made that transfer so

2917
02:12:05,770 --> 02:12:03,560
those are all things that that that the

2918
02:12:08,109 --> 02:12:05,780
law enforcement absolutely have the

2919
02:12:11,469 --> 02:12:08,119
ability to know right now

2920
02:12:14,560 --> 02:12:11,479
so I'm gonna go down the short list we

2921
02:12:16,319 --> 02:12:14,570
have we have a guy with with no personal

2922
02:12:18,639 --> 02:12:16,329
history that we can chase down we have a

2923
02:12:22,179 --> 02:12:18,649
girlfriend that was shipped out of the

2924
02:12:25,959 --> 02:12:22,189
country during the crime and and was was

2925
02:12:29,109 --> 02:12:25,969
paid $100,000 cash we have multiple

2926
02:12:34,479 --> 02:12:29,119
houses we have we have him committing

2927
02:12:36,159 --> 02:12:34,489
suicide we we don't know the amount of

2928
02:12:37,869 --> 02:12:36,169
shots that were done we don't know about

2929
02:12:39,459 --> 02:12:37,879
the shell casings in the room we don't

2930
02:12:41,560 --> 02:12:39,469
know anything about the gun information

2931
02:12:43,750 --> 02:12:41,570
we don't we don't know what anything at

2932
02:12:45,699 --> 02:12:43,760
all we have a complete screwed up

2933
02:12:47,919 --> 02:12:45,709
timeline of events we have the

2934
02:12:50,739 --> 02:12:47,929
authorities not telling us the truth we

2935
02:12:54,729 --> 02:12:50,749
have the the security guard who was

2936
02:12:57,069 --> 02:12:54,739
allegedly shot by him now disappeared

2937
02:12:59,709 --> 02:12:57,079
his timeline is incorrect he didn't

2938
02:13:02,080 --> 02:12:59,719
interrupt the shooting he's he wasn't

2939
02:13:04,209 --> 02:13:02,090
the hero that he said he was he was

2940
02:13:06,100 --> 02:13:04,219
actually shot before he wasn't up there

2941
02:13:08,609 --> 02:13:06,110
investigating shots coming from the room

2942
02:13:11,770 --> 02:13:08,619
he was actually looking for a door ajar

2943
02:13:14,859 --> 02:13:11,780
everything about this case now has run

2944
02:13:17,589 --> 02:13:14,869
amok everything so now that you've

2945
02:13:21,000 --> 02:13:17,599
started to collect this data Brian what

2946
02:13:25,929 --> 02:13:21,010
do you think is is the real story you

2947
02:13:27,909 --> 02:13:25,939
know my imagination immediately goes

2948
02:13:30,729 --> 02:13:27,919
wild I mean because it's when you

2949
02:13:32,709 --> 02:13:30,739
describe it like that and you take you

2950
02:13:34,689 --> 02:13:32,719
take the events the horrible events that

2951
02:13:36,669 --> 02:13:34,699
occurred and you try not to think about

2952
02:13:37,810 --> 02:13:36,679
that all the people that suffered

2953
02:13:40,270 --> 02:13:37,820
because of this and you try and just

2954
02:13:42,310 --> 02:13:40,280
look at it as as a story like how does

2955
02:13:44,350 --> 02:13:42,320
this story play out what what makes

2956
02:13:46,719 --> 02:13:44,360
sense for this character to do these

2957
02:13:49,179 --> 02:13:46,729
things in this particular way in

2958
02:13:51,790 --> 02:13:49,189
circumstances and you immediately start

2959
02:13:54,609 --> 02:13:51,800
to get a little Manchurian Candidate II

2960
02:13:56,639 --> 02:13:54,619
you you start to get a little you know

2961
02:13:59,830 --> 02:13:56,649
undercover II you start to talk about

2962
02:14:04,119 --> 02:13:59,840
people who were were essentially James

2963
02:14:07,899 --> 02:14:04,129
Bond I mean the this guy again huge

2964
02:14:12,399 --> 02:14:07,909
amounts of money no real ties I mean

2965
02:14:16,330 --> 02:14:12,409
he's he's the perfect person if you were

2966
02:14:18,369 --> 02:14:16,340
to try and find someone to brainwash or

2967
02:14:20,649 --> 02:14:18,379
do something else with in order to

2968
02:14:21,419 --> 02:14:20,659
convince to carry out something like

2969
02:14:24,000 --> 02:14:21,429
this he's a

2970
02:14:25,140 --> 02:14:24,010
he's a perfect candidate for it and it

2971
02:14:27,899 --> 02:14:25,150
all kind of seems like it was set up

2972
02:14:29,699 --> 02:14:27,909
like that and I again again you know me

2973
02:14:32,279 --> 02:14:29,709
man I like to deal in the facts that I

2974
02:14:34,199 --> 02:14:32,289
can I can state unequivocally I like to

2975
02:14:36,029 --> 02:14:34,209
look at him and say that is the facts I

2976
02:14:39,179 --> 02:14:36,039
can verify it I can put my hands on it

2977
02:14:41,850 --> 02:14:39,189
but this one there's just there's so

2978
02:14:44,100 --> 02:14:41,860
much that that forces your imagination

2979
02:14:47,069 --> 02:14:44,110
to start to run wild that a and there's

2980
02:14:49,290 --> 02:14:47,079
just so few answers where there should

2981
02:14:52,290 --> 02:14:49,300
be answers the way or there [\h__\h] the

2982
02:14:54,899 --> 02:14:52,300
answer should be so easy and obvious for

2983
02:14:56,879 --> 02:14:54,909
everyone to see but they're not there

2984
02:14:59,250 --> 02:14:56,889
when not even you are giving me a

2985
02:15:01,589 --> 02:14:59,260
straight answer right now Brian it's

2986
02:15:06,529 --> 02:15:01,599
hard it's hard I mean my mind

2987
02:15:11,640 --> 02:15:10,020
I just got this posted up in Twitter it

2988
02:15:14,699 --> 02:15:11,650
was about ten minutes ago

2989
02:15:17,219 --> 02:15:14,709
the anagram his girlfriend roommate

2990
02:15:21,169 --> 02:15:17,229
whatever she was a Mary Lou Dan Lee

2991
02:15:29,370 --> 02:15:21,179
write the anagram of her name is our

2992
02:15:32,129 --> 02:15:29,380
mandalay lie it's so funny because the

2993
02:15:36,959 --> 02:15:32,139
person that posted it let me see if I

2994
02:15:43,350 --> 02:15:36,969
can get the name here well I have fail

2995
02:15:44,910 --> 02:15:43,360
fail fail ear n okay well anyway you

2996
02:15:46,859 --> 02:15:44,920
gotta mention the anagram mention the

2997
02:15:48,509 --> 02:15:46,869
anagram what are the odds well you know

2998
02:15:49,229 --> 02:15:48,519
I'm kind of with you on that that's

2999
02:15:51,600 --> 02:15:49,239
that's weird

3000
02:15:54,959 --> 02:15:51,610
yeah that's just that's just bizarre I

3001
02:15:58,109 --> 02:15:54,969
mean I can chalk a lot up to coincidence

3002
02:16:01,500 --> 02:15:58,119
the the thing that really gets to me in

3003
02:16:04,439 --> 02:16:01,510
all of this is that there are many

3004
02:16:09,449 --> 02:16:04,449
questions and you kind of asked a lot of

3005
02:16:13,319 --> 02:16:09,459
them but realistically what why do we

3006
02:16:15,929 --> 02:16:13,329
not know more about him why even many

3007
02:16:19,620 --> 02:16:15,939
days later can we not figure out more

3008
02:16:21,750 --> 02:16:19,630
about him how is that possible and when

3009
02:16:24,179 --> 02:16:21,760
you combine that with the fact that so

3010
02:16:28,410 --> 02:16:24,189
much of the delayed data was deleted

3011
02:16:30,719 --> 02:16:28,420
from Pete from witness cell phones why

3012
02:16:32,879 --> 02:16:30,729
was that done and so it immediately

3013
02:16:35,100 --> 02:16:32,889
starts to raise all of the hairs in the

3014
02:16:37,560 --> 02:16:35,110
back of my neck that's something funky

3015
02:16:39,780 --> 02:16:37,570
is going on and I I just don't like that

3016
02:16:42,060 --> 02:16:39,790
I don't I don't like when data is hidden

3017
02:16:43,291 --> 02:16:42,070
from me whenever it whenever data is

3018
02:16:44,791 --> 02:16:43,301
hidden from me that means something's

3019
02:16:46,560 --> 02:16:44,801
being done in the dark and when things

3020
02:16:49,230 --> 02:16:46,570
are done in the dark it's usually not

3021
02:16:51,630 --> 02:16:49,240
for good motives people normally don't

3022
02:16:53,310 --> 02:16:51,640
try and keep data secret when they're

3023
02:16:55,680 --> 02:16:53,320
trying to be really good guys

3024
02:16:59,550 --> 02:16:55,690
you know it's data is usually kept

3025
02:17:01,530 --> 02:16:59,560
secret for a selfish motive you know

3026
02:17:03,450 --> 02:17:01,540
what I mean and and that's that's why

3027
02:17:04,920 --> 02:17:03,460
I'm where I'm stopping here I don't know

3028
02:17:06,600 --> 02:17:04,930
any of the motives I don't know the

3029
02:17:09,030 --> 02:17:06,610
motives of this man I don't know the

3030
02:17:11,430 --> 02:17:09,040
motives of the the law enforcement

3031
02:17:13,950 --> 02:17:11,440
agency all I know is that data is being

3032
02:17:16,800 --> 02:17:13,960
kept from us and not just that but data

3033
02:17:20,100 --> 02:17:16,810
is being actively removed from people's

3034
02:17:22,140 --> 02:17:20,110
machines and accounts and we we don't

3035
02:17:24,450 --> 02:17:22,150
know why and that that drives me insane

3036
02:17:26,460 --> 02:17:24,460
well I think I'm gonna have to keep you

3037
02:17:28,380 --> 02:17:26,470
for a little over time we'll see how

3038
02:17:30,660 --> 02:17:28,390
this last 10 minutes goes because you

3039
02:17:37,230 --> 02:17:30,670
started to I thought you were going to

3040
02:17:38,880 --> 02:17:37,240
say MKULTRA I don't thinking that my

3041
02:17:40,800 --> 02:17:38,890
mind keeps coming back to that they

3042
02:17:42,750 --> 02:17:40,810
don't have a problem with it I don't

3043
02:17:45,331 --> 02:17:42,760
it's the only thing that makes sense if

3044
02:17:47,310 --> 02:17:45,341
you think about it III keep trying to

3045
02:17:49,380 --> 02:17:47,320
avoid using that term with this because

3046
02:17:52,380 --> 02:17:49,390
here's here's my thought here's my

3047
02:17:57,450 --> 02:17:52,390
legitimate thought with this is a lot of

3048
02:17:59,430 --> 02:17:57,460
people died over 40 people died over 500

3049
02:18:01,291 --> 02:17:59,440
people were injured so many families

3050
02:18:05,120 --> 02:18:01,301
were torn apart because of this guy I

3051
02:18:10,590 --> 02:18:05,130
hate to I hate to immediately go to

3052
02:18:12,750 --> 02:18:10,600
something that would in any way false

3053
02:18:13,470 --> 02:18:12,760
flags or anything like that I don't like

3054
02:18:15,720 --> 02:18:13,480
that either

3055
02:18:19,020 --> 02:18:15,730
I don't out of who don't but on the same

3056
02:18:20,880 --> 02:18:19,030
token you're right it does check all the

3057
02:18:23,791 --> 02:18:20,890
check boxes with everything that's going

3058
02:18:26,880 --> 02:18:23,801
on and that kind of bugs me that it's

3059
02:18:29,370 --> 02:18:26,890
the most obvious answer for those of us

3060
02:18:30,690 --> 02:18:29,380
watching it and and pulling all of these

3061
02:18:34,260 --> 02:18:30,700
data points we've talked about today

3062
02:18:36,360 --> 02:18:34,270
together is something like an MKULTRA

3063
02:18:39,120 --> 02:18:36,370
sort of scenario a Manchurian Candidate

3064
02:18:42,030 --> 02:18:39,130
sort of scenario it just it makes

3065
02:18:44,070 --> 02:18:42,040
logical sense and it makes me unhappy

3066
02:18:46,320 --> 02:18:44,080
that it makes logical sense well if you

3067
02:18:48,400 --> 02:18:46,330
you know when we talk about the families

3068
02:18:50,890 --> 02:18:48,410
that are involved here in the friend

3069
02:18:53,800 --> 02:18:50,900
and the loved ones and and you know for

3070
02:18:57,430 --> 02:18:53,810
those that not only died but injured too

3071
02:19:00,190 --> 02:18:57,440
as well the the authorities are not

3072
02:19:00,880 --> 02:19:00,200
giving them the answers that they

3073
02:19:03,310 --> 02:19:00,890
deserve

3074
02:19:05,080 --> 02:19:03,320
so those poor families and I can't

3075
02:19:07,810 --> 02:19:05,090
imagine the grieving that they're going

3076
02:19:09,730 --> 02:19:07,820
through today are forced to sit back on

3077
02:19:11,500 --> 02:19:09,740
you know what they're not you know that

3078
02:19:14,410 --> 02:19:11,510
maybe there's something they are

3079
02:19:16,930 --> 02:19:14,420
thinking the crazy thoughts you know and

3080
02:19:20,470 --> 02:19:16,940
and and I can't I can't blame them for

3081
02:19:23,020 --> 02:19:20,480
that false flag I don't like going there

3082
02:19:26,410 --> 02:19:23,030
but they haven't they have not been

3083
02:19:28,090 --> 02:19:26,420
forth with with any information and the

3084
02:19:30,790 --> 02:19:28,100
information that they have brought

3085
02:19:32,440 --> 02:19:30,800
forward they've had to change and

3086
02:19:34,630 --> 02:19:32,450
they've had to change their own story

3087
02:19:36,850 --> 02:19:34,640
and something that should be just a

3088
02:19:40,030 --> 02:19:36,860
cut-and-dried case and that's the part

3089
02:19:43,690 --> 02:19:40,040
that I have a lot of problems with there

3090
02:19:46,450 --> 02:19:43,700
is one other well there's a couple of

3091
02:19:51,341 --> 02:19:46,460
zones that we haven't gone into yet but

3092
02:19:53,890 --> 02:19:51,351
when we are talking about an MKULTRA

3093
02:19:57,160 --> 02:19:53,900
situation a Manchurian Candidate type of

3094
02:19:59,470 --> 02:19:57,170
situation he is the perfect guy right

3095
02:20:01,360 --> 02:19:59,480
he's the guy without any background

3096
02:20:04,511 --> 02:20:01,370
without any history he's just an

3097
02:20:07,270 --> 02:20:04,521
invisible dude nobody's gonna follow

3098
02:20:12,370 --> 02:20:07,280
this guy nobody's gonna suspect this guy

3099
02:20:15,220 --> 02:20:12,380
he's like the perfect I do to to to grow

3100
02:20:18,700 --> 02:20:15,230
to nurture you know to put in place for

3101
02:20:21,640 --> 02:20:18,710
when they needed something to go down ya

3102
02:20:24,640 --> 02:20:21,650
know you you are absolutely right about

3103
02:20:29,110 --> 02:20:24,650
that the the good news the silver lining

3104
02:20:33,460 --> 02:20:29,120
in all of this is that what happened in

3105
02:20:36,160 --> 02:20:33,470
Las Vegas will be impossible in the long

3106
02:20:40,150 --> 02:20:36,170
run to keep completely under wraps

3107
02:20:44,140 --> 02:20:40,160
because there was again so many cameras

3108
02:20:46,990 --> 02:20:44,150
and so many eyewitnesses and so many

3109
02:20:50,500 --> 02:20:47,000
recordings even if they did a great job

3110
02:20:53,560 --> 02:20:50,510
of removing all of data about Steven

3111
02:20:56,680 --> 02:20:53,570
paddock leading up to the event it's

3112
02:20:59,620 --> 02:20:56,690
still it still is going to be hard to in

3113
02:21:02,130 --> 02:20:59,630
the hub of it in the chaos to remove

3114
02:21:04,110 --> 02:21:02,140
data from thousands and

3115
02:21:07,590 --> 02:21:04,120
thousands and thousands of cameras

3116
02:21:10,649 --> 02:21:07,600
completely with nobody knowing about it

3117
02:21:12,599 --> 02:21:10,659
and so eventually we are going to get

3118
02:21:14,910 --> 02:21:12,609
enough data out of this to be able to

3119
02:21:17,820 --> 02:21:14,920
piece things together because of where

3120
02:21:19,740 --> 02:21:17,830
this took place that's the one the one

3121
02:21:21,360 --> 02:21:19,750
the one silver lining in all of this

3122
02:21:23,010 --> 02:21:21,370
doesn't mean we have all those in from

3123
02:21:24,750 --> 02:21:23,020
that information now doesn't mean we

3124
02:21:27,000 --> 02:21:24,760
have any answers now we have more

3125
02:21:29,370 --> 02:21:27,010
questions than answers at this point and

3126
02:21:31,170 --> 02:21:29,380
every every news agency on the planet is

3127
02:21:34,920 --> 02:21:31,180
just having the same problem like why

3128
02:21:36,320 --> 02:21:34,930
don't we know more but eventually some

3129
02:21:40,710 --> 02:21:36,330
of that videos gonna come out eventually

3130
02:21:42,269 --> 02:21:40,720
Google Apple other other companies who

3131
02:21:44,070 --> 02:21:42,279
have some of those pictures and those

3132
02:21:45,990 --> 02:21:44,080
videos that were uploaded to their cloud

3133
02:21:47,820 --> 02:21:46,000
services some of its gonna get leaked

3134
02:21:51,149 --> 02:21:47,830
out it just has to happen

3135
02:21:52,800 --> 02:21:51,159
I mean it's leaks happen is sort of

3136
02:21:54,599 --> 02:21:52,810
thing that is high-profile enough that I

3137
02:21:57,870 --> 02:21:54,609
think someone will yeah I said that

3138
02:21:58,740 --> 02:21:57,880
night when when this was all going down

3139
02:22:00,510 --> 02:21:58,750
eventually

3140
02:22:03,780 --> 02:22:00,520
Rita turned to me and she said you know

3141
02:22:05,910 --> 02:22:03,790
what I can't deal with this right but we

3142
02:22:08,280 --> 02:22:05,920
can't watch this anymore so we shut it

3143
02:22:09,750 --> 02:22:08,290
off and we waited till the morning and I

3144
02:22:13,469 --> 02:22:09,760
had said to read it that night I said

3145
02:22:16,380 --> 02:22:13,479
Rita you watch this is Vegas tomorrow

3146
02:22:18,660 --> 02:22:16,390
we're gonna have a thousand videos

3147
02:22:21,599 --> 02:22:18,670
posted we're gonna know you know we're

3148
02:22:24,090 --> 02:22:21,609
gonna see exactly right and none of that

3149
02:22:27,950 --> 02:22:24,100
happen and let me let me flip this over

3150
02:22:32,760 --> 02:22:27,960
let me flip this over it was a frigging

3151
02:22:36,240 --> 02:22:32,770
festival with 20,000 people the video

3152
02:22:41,639 --> 02:22:36,250
crew that is they're shooting the event

3153
02:22:44,700 --> 02:22:41,649
yep how many kept professional 4k yeah

3154
02:22:46,860 --> 02:22:44,710
good stuff the real stuff yeah all of

3155
02:22:49,200 --> 02:22:46,870
those cameras spun around and we're

3156
02:22:50,550 --> 02:22:49,210
shooting the Mandalay Bay yeah not to

3157
02:22:52,530 --> 02:22:50,560
mention the hundreds of people that

3158
02:22:55,830 --> 02:22:52,540
already had their phones up with their

3159
02:22:58,229 --> 02:22:55,840
finger on the reflections people not a

3160
02:23:01,800 --> 02:22:58,239
hundred what we do that's all they do we

3161
02:23:04,439 --> 02:23:01,810
do you know our daughter went to a

3162
02:23:05,700 --> 02:23:04,449
concert this weekend have you ever heard

3163
02:23:09,059 --> 02:23:05,710
of this guy weekend

3164
02:23:11,250 --> 02:23:09,069
no okay he's like the biggest you know

3165
02:23:14,340 --> 02:23:11,260
rapper in the world right now this guy

3166
02:23:15,780 --> 02:23:14,350
weekend four-day weekend whatever his

3167
02:23:18,030 --> 02:23:15,790
name is three-day weekend

3168
02:23:21,450 --> 02:23:18,040
and so anyways she goes and she's

3169
02:23:24,690 --> 02:23:21,460
showing you know she's she's setting us

3170
02:23:27,960 --> 02:23:24,700
her live streams of the concert and all

3171
02:23:31,950 --> 02:23:27,970
you see in front of her is a sea of cell

3172
02:23:33,570 --> 02:23:31,960
phones every it's like then put the cell

3173
02:23:36,450 --> 02:23:33,580
phones down and watch the concert you

3174
02:23:39,179 --> 02:23:36,460
know back in the day we had our big

3175
02:23:41,400 --> 02:23:39,189
lighters right they're not looking at

3176
02:23:45,780 --> 02:23:41,410
our big lighters everybody's video -

3177
02:23:47,940 --> 02:23:45,790
looking at their cell phones I mean I

3178
02:23:50,040 --> 02:23:47,950
don't want exactly I don't want to sound

3179
02:23:54,210 --> 02:23:50,050
like some old man you know so I'm gonna

3180
02:23:57,150 --> 02:23:54,220
be too late for that right but that's

3181
02:24:00,150 --> 02:23:57,160
what was going on at the harvest at that

3182
02:24:02,880 --> 02:24:00,160
concert there there's 20,000 people

3183
02:24:05,700 --> 02:24:02,890
there 10,000 of them were videotaping

3184
02:24:07,950 --> 02:24:05,710
I guarantee you that's the number but

3185
02:24:09,840 --> 02:24:07,960
let's let's put that aside that's in a

3186
02:24:11,370 --> 02:24:09,850
that's an assumption that we can feel

3187
02:24:14,070 --> 02:24:11,380
pretty good about but there was a

3188
02:24:18,120 --> 02:24:14,080
professional video crew there there were

3189
02:24:20,280 --> 02:24:18,130
cameras everywhere 4k on tripods all

3190
02:24:22,429 --> 02:24:20,290
over the stage up and down back at the

3191
02:24:25,260 --> 02:24:22,439
sound council up and down in the middle

3192
02:24:27,450 --> 02:24:25,270
everywhere and when that shooting stag I

3193
02:24:29,519 --> 02:24:27,460
don't think that those cameramen you

3194
02:24:33,420 --> 02:24:29,529
know dropped in and ran you know went

3195
02:24:35,190 --> 02:24:33,430
serpentine you know already know they

3196
02:24:39,210 --> 02:24:35,200
spun those cameras around on the

3197
02:24:41,280 --> 02:24:39,220
Mandalay Bay in 4k right right they they

3198
02:24:43,260 --> 02:24:41,290
want to get the shot they they want to

3199
02:24:45,150 --> 02:24:43,270
get that video I mean that's that's what

3200
02:24:48,240 --> 02:24:45,160
camera people do yeah I mean that's

3201
02:24:51,660 --> 02:24:48,250
their thing what why do we not have any

3202
02:24:52,800 --> 02:24:51,670
of that public no that is baffling to me

3203
02:24:55,800 --> 02:24:52,810
this is gnarly

3204
02:24:59,910 --> 02:24:55,810
this is not the Zapruder film it's not

3205
02:25:04,620 --> 02:24:59,920
that kind of party today no I mean every

3206
02:25:09,030 --> 02:25:04,630
every view every resolution every format

3207
02:25:12,120 --> 02:25:09,040
that you want was shot that day and I

3208
02:25:13,950 --> 02:25:12,130
was I was so surprised to see the next

3209
02:25:17,460 --> 02:25:13,960
day that there was you know two or three

3210
02:25:19,860 --> 02:25:17,470
grainy you know shots of this that were

3211
02:25:21,900 --> 02:25:19,870
leaked oh and that's okay you know what

3212
02:25:23,730 --> 02:25:21,910
we got to take a break okay let's take a

3213
02:25:27,900 --> 02:25:23,740
break because when we come back I do

3214
02:25:29,310 --> 02:25:27,910
want to talk about JPEGs formats cell

3215
02:25:32,640 --> 02:25:29,320
phone cameras

3216
02:25:34,980 --> 02:25:32,650
and the leaked pictures from yeah we've

3217
02:25:37,080 --> 02:25:34,990
got to talk about that the leaked

3218
02:25:38,640 --> 02:25:37,090
pictures from the room so just stay

3219
02:25:41,160 --> 02:25:38,650
right there Brian I'm gonna keep you for

3220
02:25:43,740 --> 02:25:41,170
a few minutes and I'll open up the phone

3221
02:25:46,530 --> 02:25:43,750
lines too as well three to three a two

3222
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tonight Brian lund Duke we're talking

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3305
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3306
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assuming Church like yes and I Brian

3307
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Lundy and his website of course is

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3310
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3311
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it out his video stuff that he does is

3312
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the best you know and what's funny Brian

3313
02:30:41,341 --> 02:30:38,800
I've been a fan of yours for so long and

3314
02:30:44,940 --> 02:30:41,351
the way that you approach stuff is cool

3315
02:30:47,850 --> 02:30:44,950
you have a comedy side that takes this

3316
02:30:50,820 --> 02:30:47,860
tech stuff which can really be pretty

3317
02:30:53,640 --> 02:30:50,830
heady material but you do a really good

3318
02:30:55,620 --> 02:30:53,650
way of presenting it and I do want to

3319
02:30:57,990 --> 02:30:55,630
give you some kudos a little slap on the

3320
02:31:00,810 --> 02:30:58,000
back because thanks man but it's hard

3321
02:31:02,850 --> 02:31:00,820
man it's hard it is not easy no and if a

3322
02:31:08,180 --> 02:31:02,860
guy like me can get through it and start

3323
02:31:16,341 --> 02:31:11,011
let me ask you let me ask you this when

3324
02:31:18,841 --> 02:31:16,351
it comes to these leaked photographs

3325
02:31:21,060 --> 02:31:18,851
every that what's the digital

3326
02:31:23,580 --> 02:31:21,070
information that follows a photograph

3327
02:31:25,381 --> 02:31:23,590
what is tagged in that metadata so

3328
02:31:28,370 --> 02:31:25,391
there's there's a couple of things the

3329
02:31:30,600 --> 02:31:28,380
first thing we look at is exif data

3330
02:31:32,341 --> 02:31:30,610
exif and that is basically the data

3331
02:31:34,410 --> 02:31:32,351
that's that's imprinted on the on the

3332
02:31:36,540 --> 02:31:34,420
picture and usually when it's taken by a

3333
02:31:39,841 --> 02:31:36,550
camera whether it's a cell phone or a

3334
02:31:41,850 --> 02:31:39,851
nice DSLR data and that can be a wide

3335
02:31:43,740 --> 02:31:41,860
variety of things usually it's stuff

3336
02:31:45,631 --> 02:31:43,750
like you know the aperture settings of

3337
02:31:48,480 --> 02:31:45,641
the camera and resolution and all these

3338
02:31:50,461 --> 02:31:48,490
sorts of things in in other scenarios

3339
02:31:53,270 --> 02:31:50,471
some metadata can be attached to it like

3340
02:31:55,410 --> 02:31:53,280
the the time it was taken and the like

3341
02:31:58,890 --> 02:31:55,420
when we start looking at these these

3342
02:32:00,570 --> 02:31:58,900
leaked photos though there's no such

3343
02:32:03,270 --> 02:32:00,580
data that i've seen on any of these

3344
02:32:06,120 --> 02:32:03,280
JPEGs so far which makes it really

3345
02:32:08,970 --> 02:32:06,130
difficult to authenticate any of this

3346
02:32:12,320 --> 02:32:08,980
especially considering there's so many

3347
02:32:15,030 --> 02:32:12,330
rooms at the Mandalay that are identical

3348
02:32:16,740 --> 02:32:15,040
which makes verifying those leaked

3349
02:32:22,020 --> 02:32:16,750
photos so difficult

3350
02:32:24,480 --> 02:32:22,030
well now we we have two ways to look at

3351
02:32:28,440 --> 02:32:24,490
those leaked photos either they release

3352
02:32:29,300 --> 02:32:28,450
or they were intentionally leaked rights

3353
02:32:34,550 --> 02:32:29,310
right now

3354
02:32:36,020 --> 02:32:34,560
if you are somebody's boss right that's

3355
02:32:38,510 --> 02:32:36,030
on the crime scene

3356
02:32:41,270 --> 02:32:38,520
you know everybody that's in there

3357
02:32:43,280 --> 02:32:41,280
that's that's easy that's a given but if

3358
02:32:44,180 --> 02:32:43,290
you need to find out who leaked the

3359
02:32:49,730 --> 02:32:44,190
photographs

3360
02:32:52,090 --> 02:32:49,740
can you tie the the data that is in one

3361
02:32:55,340 --> 02:32:52,100
of those photographs to a specific phone

3362
02:32:57,470 --> 02:32:55,350
not terribly easily know the best bet

3363
02:33:00,650 --> 02:32:57,480
for tracking that down is actually to

3364
02:33:02,510 --> 02:33:00,660
you'd the old-fashioned way of go to the

3365
02:33:04,160 --> 02:33:02,520
the people that leaked it whether it was

3366
02:33:06,080 --> 02:33:04,170
at the the independent or whatever a

3367
02:33:07,190 --> 02:33:06,090
website was posting it and find out

3368
02:33:10,010 --> 02:33:07,200
where they got it and do good

3369
02:33:13,070 --> 02:33:10,020
old-fashioned gumshoe footwork to trace

3370
02:33:15,590 --> 02:33:13,080
it back to somebody but unless you can

3371
02:33:17,330 --> 02:33:15,600
actually find an email or some other

3372
02:33:20,090 --> 02:33:17,340
correspondence where that picture was

3373
02:33:22,220 --> 02:33:20,100
sent it's really difficult to trace it

3374
02:33:24,010 --> 02:33:22,230
back to a specific phone especially

3375
02:33:26,840 --> 02:33:24,020
considering most of these images are

3376
02:33:28,610 --> 02:33:26,850
clearly edited and cropped afterwards I

3377
02:33:30,500 --> 02:33:28,620
don't know if any effects replied to

3378
02:33:32,780 --> 02:33:30,510
them but they were cropped they're two

3379
02:33:35,360 --> 02:33:32,790
at a non-standard resolution have you

3380
02:33:37,420 --> 02:33:35,370
done well have you looked okay I want to

3381
02:33:42,620 --> 02:33:37,430
stay on this for a second before I

3382
02:33:45,860 --> 02:33:42,630
continue are you saying that if we went

3383
02:33:48,560 --> 02:33:45,870
to court there would be no way to prove

3384
02:33:51,230 --> 02:33:48,570
if we were in court not on this case but

3385
02:33:54,470 --> 02:33:51,240
any case there would be no way to prove

3386
02:33:58,040 --> 02:33:54,480
that photographs were taken from a

3387
02:34:00,860 --> 02:33:58,050
specific phone there's no data in the

3388
02:34:03,620 --> 02:34:00,870
the images that would tie it to a

3389
02:34:06,440 --> 02:34:03,630
specific phone not easily there there

3390
02:34:08,300 --> 02:34:06,450
are two possible things that can be done

3391
02:34:10,700 --> 02:34:08,310
here the first is if you can find the

3392
02:34:12,680 --> 02:34:10,710
original images and find the resolution

3393
02:34:14,660 --> 02:34:12,690
that they're at different cameras

3394
02:34:16,160 --> 02:34:14,670
operated different resolutions that that

3395
02:34:18,950 --> 02:34:16,170
makes it a little bit easier to narrow

3396
02:34:20,870 --> 02:34:18,960
down like let's say I know that you know

3397
02:34:22,730 --> 02:34:20,880
there was 20 different police officers

3398
02:34:24,260 --> 02:34:22,740
or employees that had access to the room

3399
02:34:26,780 --> 02:34:24,270
and I know what kind of phones they had

3400
02:34:29,300 --> 02:34:26,790
I may be able to then track it down to a

3401
02:34:31,730 --> 02:34:29,310
specific person the other thing is if

3402
02:34:34,370 --> 02:34:31,740
it's a cell phone camera a lot of times

3403
02:34:37,540 --> 02:34:34,380
those phones if you can get to them

3404
02:34:39,950 --> 02:34:37,550
quickly will have a lot of smudges and

3405
02:34:41,750 --> 02:34:39,960
imperfections or scratches over the

3406
02:34:42,889 --> 02:34:41,760
lenses because their cell phones we put

3407
02:34:44,540 --> 02:34:42,899
them on our

3408
02:34:46,010 --> 02:34:44,550
drop them down throw them in our pocket

3409
02:34:47,660 --> 02:34:46,020
with some keys they get scratched up and

3410
02:34:49,820 --> 02:34:47,670
those will basically leave the

3411
02:34:52,610 --> 02:34:49,830
equivalent of fingerprints on the image

3412
02:34:54,800 --> 02:34:52,620
so in that way that would be possible to

3413
02:34:56,240 --> 02:34:54,810
do I mean I don't see any right off the

3414
02:34:59,210 --> 02:34:56,250
bat but these are fairly low resolution

3415
02:35:01,040 --> 02:34:59,220
ones that I'm looking at here and I'm

3416
02:35:03,469 --> 02:35:01,050
sure of someone with with some forensics

3417
02:35:06,110 --> 02:35:03,479
experience if they could get a stack of

3418
02:35:07,400 --> 02:35:06,120
phones that might have been used to take

3419
02:35:09,080 --> 02:35:07,410
these photos that they might be able to

3420
02:35:12,440 --> 02:35:09,090
track that down otherwise it's very

3421
02:35:15,760 --> 02:35:12,450
difficult I've looked at all of the

3422
02:35:19,580 --> 02:35:15,770
versions of these images that I could

3423
02:35:22,030 --> 02:35:19,590
going back through googled - the first

3424
02:35:25,400 --> 02:35:22,040
ones that were posted on the net and

3425
02:35:28,269 --> 02:35:25,410
each serie I've looked at the raw copped

3426
02:35:31,849 --> 02:35:28,279
they're all crosses they're all caught

3427
02:35:33,889 --> 02:35:31,859
there the cropped ones are cropped yeah

3428
02:35:35,599 --> 02:35:33,899
we understand what I'm saying there hey

3429
02:35:37,330 --> 02:35:35,609
I do yeah I've been trying to get back

3430
02:35:39,410 --> 02:35:37,340
to the originals now this is the other

3431
02:35:42,860 --> 02:35:39,420
thing that I found pretty interesting

3432
02:35:45,230 --> 02:35:42,870
about those images is when you get back

3433
02:35:47,480 --> 02:35:45,240
to the original ones as far back as as

3434
02:35:49,250 --> 02:35:47,490
you can go which I did do the day that

3435
02:35:52,580 --> 02:35:49,260
they were released I went back and

3436
02:35:55,700 --> 02:35:52,590
checked as soon as the Chief of Police I

3437
02:35:58,070 --> 02:35:55,710
think it was the Chief of Police got up

3438
02:36:00,530 --> 02:35:58,080
at the press conference and said and I

3439
02:36:04,670 --> 02:36:00,540
was astonished I just wanted to say that

3440
02:36:07,340 --> 02:36:04,680
the leaked images today are real I'm

3441
02:36:10,639 --> 02:36:07,350
like holy crap what is it why would you

3442
02:36:12,580 --> 02:36:10,649
say that so I immediately went back and

3443
02:36:14,570 --> 02:36:12,590
I thought okay I was sent the images

3444
02:36:16,790 --> 02:36:14,580
immediately and I went back and looked

3445
02:36:19,820 --> 02:36:16,800
at those that were in the emails that I

3446
02:36:22,099 --> 02:36:19,830
got and this was the thing that I was so

3447
02:36:26,510 --> 02:36:22,109
shocked about they were perfectly in

3448
02:36:29,780 --> 02:36:26,520
focus perfectly clear right I mean it

3449
02:36:32,120 --> 02:36:29,790
seems like this was intentionally done

3450
02:36:34,400 --> 02:36:32,130
so I started to look in the background

3451
02:36:36,710 --> 02:36:34,410
and tried to you know see different

3452
02:36:38,719 --> 02:36:36,720
things okay I got a body there I got a

3453
02:36:41,599 --> 02:36:38,729
gun there but what about what about the

3454
02:36:44,030 --> 02:36:41,609
background did you do the same thing

3455
02:36:47,179 --> 02:36:44,040
that's it what he did what did you find

3456
02:36:49,400 --> 02:36:47,189
interesting in the backgrounds or well

3457
02:36:51,559 --> 02:36:49,410
did the thing that that really caught me

3458
02:36:55,070 --> 02:36:51,569
off guard with with all of this is is

3459
02:36:56,240 --> 02:36:55,080
that these were clearly done quickly and

3460
02:36:59,960 --> 02:36:56,250
hastily right so the

3461
02:37:02,060 --> 02:36:59,970
whole thing is not lit up at all and I

3462
02:37:03,440 --> 02:37:02,070
can't quite tell what's happening in the

3463
02:37:05,000 --> 02:37:03,450
background there to be honest with you I

3464
02:37:08,680 --> 02:37:05,010
need to kind of check out the rooms what

3465
02:37:13,430 --> 02:37:08,690
did you find I saw that there was a

3466
02:37:15,860 --> 02:37:13,440
notepad on a table on some table to the

3467
02:37:18,560 --> 02:37:15,870
right of the body with a pen on top of

3468
02:37:20,750 --> 02:37:18,570
it and some writing there I saw that and

3469
02:37:22,460 --> 02:37:20,760
that's in a roll of tape being next to

3470
02:37:25,790 --> 02:37:22,470
it yep yep yep and I saw that

3471
02:37:27,770 --> 02:37:25,800
immediately so I just thought man and if

3472
02:37:30,230 --> 02:37:27,780
I had the raw files if I had the

3473
02:37:31,940 --> 02:37:30,240
originals and that would almost be clear

3474
02:37:39,340 --> 02:37:31,950
enough you could almost make something

3475
02:37:41,270 --> 02:37:39,350
out I know so you know his his his face

3476
02:37:45,860 --> 02:37:41,280
with that shot

3477
02:37:48,920 --> 02:37:45,870
I looked at that and it kind of looked

3478
02:37:50,660 --> 02:37:48,930
like the Steven paddock that was in the

3479
02:37:53,810 --> 02:37:50,670
two photographs that were published on

3480
02:37:57,350 --> 02:37:53,820
the net but also I wasn't comfortable

3481
02:37:59,570 --> 02:37:57,360
with I I'm not sure I could have said

3482
02:38:02,210 --> 02:37:59,580
that that it was the same guy I'm not

3483
02:38:04,400 --> 02:38:02,220
trying to raise a red flag here but it

3484
02:38:07,580 --> 02:38:04,410
wasn't like it was a dead giveaway right

3485
02:38:10,670 --> 02:38:07,590
well I mean it's it is everything's very

3486
02:38:12,110 --> 02:38:10,680
difficult to tell I mean it's it's at

3487
02:38:13,880 --> 02:38:12,120
least one of the images is very gruesome

3488
02:38:16,640 --> 02:38:13,890
to look at and it's very it's very

3489
02:38:18,080 --> 02:38:16,650
difficult to tell any of the data around

3490
02:38:21,620 --> 02:38:18,090
it like it's hard to use it to verify

3491
02:38:23,360 --> 02:38:21,630
identity it really is like a well there

3492
02:38:25,100 --> 02:38:23,370
was one thing missing from the

3493
02:38:28,610 --> 02:38:25,110
photographs though and I brought this up

3494
02:38:30,740 --> 02:38:28,620
a lot and I haven't had no police have

3495
02:38:33,680 --> 02:38:30,750
mentioned anything about this nobody in

3496
02:38:37,280 --> 02:38:33,690
the media has mentioned I did not see a

3497
02:38:39,350 --> 02:38:37,290
shell casing right and now supposedly

3498
02:38:42,290 --> 02:38:39,360
this guy cranked off a thousand twelve

3499
02:38:45,040 --> 02:38:42,300
hundred fourteen hundred shots wouldn't

3500
02:38:47,270 --> 02:38:45,050
the floor be littered with shell casings

3501
02:38:49,100 --> 02:38:47,280
shouldn't they be everywhere shouldn't

3502
02:38:51,500 --> 02:38:49,110
you be tripping and falling over them

3503
02:38:54,470 --> 02:38:51,510
and there were none in any of the

3504
02:38:58,130 --> 02:38:54,480
photographs and you know when you with

3505
02:39:01,520 --> 02:38:58,140
you see crime scene 101 right I don't

3506
02:39:03,710 --> 02:39:01,530
care man go watch CSI well you got those

3507
02:39:05,150 --> 02:39:03,720
little tent cards with numbers on it

3508
02:39:07,130 --> 02:39:05,160
right one two three four five you know

3509
02:39:09,460 --> 02:39:07,140
in every shell casings got a number on

3510
02:39:13,250 --> 02:39:09,470
it where where is

3511
02:39:15,380 --> 02:39:13,260
1010 cards in the room I don't see any

3512
02:39:18,380 --> 02:39:15,390
of that and I thought that that was a

3513
02:39:21,050 --> 02:39:18,390
little bit strange and in connection

3514
02:39:23,570 --> 02:39:21,060
with that this is the other thing and

3515
02:39:26,870 --> 02:39:23,580
I'm gonna say it again for everybody I'm

3516
02:39:30,170 --> 02:39:26,880
not trying to start something when there

3517
02:39:34,690 --> 02:39:30,180
isn't anything but if I'm the police

3518
02:39:37,370 --> 02:39:34,700
I find the ATF if I'm the FBI I go up

3519
02:39:40,309 --> 02:39:37,380
for the press conference with two boxes

3520
02:39:44,240 --> 02:39:40,319
of shell casings right here's 1,200

3521
02:39:46,219 --> 02:39:44,250
shell casings we've got we've got the

3522
02:39:49,040 --> 02:39:46,229
guns here are the guns that these were

3523
02:39:51,650 --> 02:39:49,050
fired for right so here's that

3524
02:39:53,300 --> 02:39:51,660
everything was in this room we got shell

3525
02:39:55,040 --> 02:39:53,310
casings from outside of the window on

3526
02:39:58,160 --> 02:39:55,050
the grounds downstairs we got everything

3527
02:40:01,340 --> 02:39:58,170
that we could so it was just one shooter

3528
02:40:03,500 --> 02:40:01,350
from this one room and here's our proof

3529
02:40:05,480 --> 02:40:03,510
of that let's close down the conspiracy

3530
02:40:07,580 --> 02:40:05,490
theories about two shooters three

3531
02:40:10,099 --> 02:40:07,590
shooters four shooter but they haven't

3532
02:40:12,320 --> 02:40:10,109
done that and I would think that would

3533
02:40:14,150 --> 02:40:12,330
be the first thing that they would do

3534
02:40:16,490 --> 02:40:14,160
there's no shell casings in the

3535
02:40:18,230 --> 02:40:16,500
photographs they haven't provided as for

3536
02:40:19,969 --> 02:40:18,240
the shell casings they haven't shown us

3537
02:40:22,429 --> 02:40:19,979
the guns that were fired

3538
02:40:24,020 --> 02:40:22,439
none of that yeah that's kind of an

3539
02:40:26,510 --> 02:40:24,030
interesting point so I'm looking at the

3540
02:40:31,480 --> 02:40:26,520
images right now there's a there's one

3541
02:40:34,460 --> 02:40:31,490
image posted by a reporter from Boston

3542
02:40:36,650 --> 02:40:34,470
that that kind of shows a zoomed in shot

3543
02:40:40,010 --> 02:40:36,660
of one of the guns on the floor and

3544
02:40:43,429 --> 02:40:40,020
there are a few shell casings there like

3545
02:40:47,150 --> 02:40:43,439
a very small few like I'd say a dozen

3546
02:40:49,309 --> 02:40:47,160
maybe but that like like you said there

3547
02:40:50,840 --> 02:40:49,319
should be literally like a thousand

3548
02:40:52,969 --> 02:40:50,850
littering the floor the floor should

3549
02:40:55,099 --> 02:40:52,979
just be lousy with shell casings you

3550
02:40:56,570 --> 02:40:55,109
should be tripping over them in rolling

3551
02:40:59,570 --> 02:40:56,580
in them there's so many of them and

3552
02:41:01,849 --> 02:40:59,580
there's just a couple off to the side

3553
02:41:04,219 --> 02:41:01,859
kind of where you wouldn't expect shell

3554
02:41:07,010 --> 02:41:04,229
casings to be yeah I was so around his

3555
02:41:09,349 --> 02:41:07,020
feet I count one two three four a bit

3556
02:41:10,820 --> 02:41:09,359
maybe 20 yeah yeah yeah I think we're

3557
02:41:12,559 --> 02:41:10,830
looking at the same spot there so I I

3558
02:41:14,630 --> 02:41:12,569
hadn't had that hadn't dawned on me see

3559
02:41:17,750 --> 02:41:14,640
this is this is why I'm not you know a

3560
02:41:20,660 --> 02:41:17,760
member of CSI right you're absolutely

3561
02:41:22,730 --> 02:41:20,670
right I mean that's that's that's my

3562
02:41:25,400 --> 02:41:22,740
thought and

3563
02:41:28,370 --> 02:41:25,410
weird yeah I'm still I'm looking through

3564
02:41:30,080 --> 02:41:28,380
these well there's some around his head

3565
02:41:31,631 --> 02:41:30,090
okay one two three four five six seven

3566
02:41:34,551 --> 02:41:31,641
eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen

3567
02:41:38,000 --> 02:41:34,561
the long and short of it is not a

3568
02:41:39,980 --> 02:41:38,010
thousand right I mean I don't know

3569
02:41:43,310 --> 02:41:39,990
there's there's a handgun there too as

3570
02:41:45,860 --> 02:41:43,320
well but I it looks to me and I'll I'll

3571
02:41:48,980 --> 02:41:45,870
say this again it seems like these

3572
02:41:52,160 --> 02:41:48,990
leaked photographs were they feel staged

3573
02:41:54,860 --> 02:41:52,170
I mean if it feels intentional it was

3574
02:41:58,961 --> 02:41:54,870
what they wanted to see and there was

3575
02:42:04,461 --> 02:41:58,971
one other thing that I kind of felt like

3576
02:42:07,430 --> 02:42:04,471
and if you go to the shot with the two

3577
02:42:14,301 --> 02:42:07,440
chairs that are pushed together it seems

3578
02:42:18,470 --> 02:42:14,311
like they're on display like that like

3579
02:42:20,841 --> 02:42:18,480
the guns are on display yeah I I don't

3580
02:42:22,341 --> 02:42:20,851
know what I'm trying to say weird no no

3581
02:42:25,400 --> 02:42:22,351
III get what you're saying though you

3582
02:42:28,640 --> 02:42:25,410
know when you see when you see it's like

3583
02:42:31,430 --> 02:42:28,650
when you watch a TV show and things look

3584
02:42:33,620 --> 02:42:31,440
just a little bit wrong like like a

3585
02:42:35,270 --> 02:42:33,630
human being didn't quite do what they

3586
02:42:37,310 --> 02:42:35,280
were supposed to have done in that room

3587
02:42:39,230 --> 02:42:37,320
like you see a shot of a kitchen in a TV

3588
02:42:41,120 --> 02:42:39,240
show and there's like a blender sitting

3589
02:42:43,100 --> 02:42:41,130
on the counter but there's no way a

3590
02:42:44,390 --> 02:42:43,110
human being would use a blender exactly

3591
02:42:46,820 --> 02:42:44,400
where it's at so it kind of makes you

3592
02:42:49,190 --> 02:42:46,830
[\h__\h] your head to the side right this

3593
02:42:50,690 --> 02:42:49,200
whole thing is kind of like that that

3594
02:42:54,080 --> 02:42:50,700
that's that was that's kind of my main

3595
02:42:56,600 --> 02:42:54,090
takeaways it feels odd and now and

3596
02:42:59,780 --> 02:42:56,610
there's one I don't want to you know I

3597
02:43:03,320 --> 02:42:59,790
feel so bad for the families I know but

3598
02:43:05,360 --> 02:43:03,330
the body I'm serious man I'm just gonna

3599
02:43:08,421 --> 02:43:05,370
say it right now it just looks like it

3600
02:43:13,190 --> 02:43:08,431
was placed if you just shot yourself in

3601
02:43:16,250 --> 02:43:13,200
the head do you just lay down Ryan let's

3602
02:43:18,110 --> 02:43:16,260
be fair I never having shot myself in

3603
02:43:20,780 --> 02:43:18,120
the head I honestly don't know what I'd

3604
02:43:23,961 --> 02:43:20,790
do but I don't think I'd do that it just

3605
02:43:26,900 --> 02:43:23,971
looks like he just laid down so it looks

3606
02:43:30,470 --> 02:43:26,910
like to me somebody positioned the body

3607
02:43:33,171 --> 02:43:30,480
it just looks like it was staged and and

3608
02:43:34,809 --> 02:43:33,181
I don't know it's just too perfect it's

3609
02:43:37,119 --> 02:43:34,819
just too perfect

3610
02:43:39,939 --> 02:43:37,129
maybe there's no conspiracy here maybe

3611
02:43:42,579 --> 02:43:39,949
there's nothing maybe he was just a guy

3612
02:43:44,139 --> 02:43:42,589
that one day said you know what I'm

3613
02:43:49,090 --> 02:43:44,149
gonna go to Vegas I'm gonna shoot up

3614
02:43:50,710 --> 02:43:49,100
this this this festival and this is what

3615
02:43:53,380 --> 02:43:50,720
I'm gonna do and he booked the room he

3616
02:43:55,719 --> 02:43:53,390
got the guns in there somehow and he did

3617
02:43:58,210 --> 02:43:55,729
what he set out to do with no paper

3618
02:44:01,300 --> 02:43:58,220
trail no internet trail nothing on any

3619
02:44:03,250 --> 02:44:01,310
posting no social media and nothing

3620
02:44:06,219 --> 02:44:03,260
pissed off nothing at his friend's his

3621
02:44:08,469 --> 02:44:06,229
boss the the the people that were raping

3622
02:44:10,119 --> 02:44:08,479
him from the Mandalay Bay or the casino

3623
02:44:12,760 --> 02:44:10,129
moguls that were stealing his money

3624
02:44:17,079 --> 02:44:12,770
whatever there's nothing there

3625
02:44:20,559 --> 02:44:17,089
but maybe it is just that I mean maybe

3626
02:44:23,439 --> 02:44:20,569
but who gets murderously pissed off in

3627
02:44:26,109 --> 02:44:23,449
today's day and age without ranting

3628
02:44:29,079 --> 02:44:26,119
about it on social media or somewhere a

3629
02:44:31,869 --> 02:44:29,089
friend of someone yeah yelling to a

3630
02:44:33,790 --> 02:44:31,879
friend like these these bleepity bleep

3631
02:44:36,550 --> 02:44:33,800
Sauveur here bleep in me you know I mean

3632
02:44:39,189 --> 02:44:36,560
this some email some text message

3633
02:44:42,819 --> 02:44:39,199
something that where he would express

3634
02:44:46,750 --> 02:44:42,829
his anger or his his interest in revenge

3635
02:44:48,609 --> 02:44:46,760
or or whatever it is it's you know he

3636
02:44:50,979 --> 02:44:48,619
has a girlfriend that he sent out of the

3637
02:44:53,199 --> 02:44:50,989
country and gave $100,000 to in the

3638
02:44:55,479 --> 02:44:53,209
Philippines what like so he he was

3639
02:44:57,130 --> 02:44:55,489
thinking about things is that literally

3640
02:44:59,260 --> 02:44:57,140
the only action he took that it just

3641
02:45:03,689 --> 02:44:59,270
doesn't seem likely no the whole thing

3642
02:45:08,469 --> 02:45:03,699
just feels weird and it I think that

3643
02:45:11,859 --> 02:45:08,479
with how man I just hate going here but

3644
02:45:16,000 --> 02:45:11,869
after the experience of 9/11 that this

3645
02:45:18,010 --> 02:45:16,010
country is ready to jump on a conspiracy

3646
02:45:20,349 --> 02:45:18,020
they're they're they're ready to jump on

3647
02:45:23,590 --> 02:45:20,359
the government screwing up they're ready

3648
02:45:26,199 --> 02:45:23,600
to go there and so we are rehearsed

3649
02:45:29,130 --> 02:45:26,209
we're ready to go and this happened in

3650
02:45:32,889 --> 02:45:29,140
Las Vegas and the one time the one

3651
02:45:36,309 --> 02:45:32,899
opportunity that all of the authorities

3652
02:45:38,229 --> 02:45:36,319
were you know given the opportunity to

3653
02:45:40,800 --> 02:45:38,239
be straight with us that they would do

3654
02:45:43,719 --> 02:45:40,810
it this time around and instead they

3655
02:45:46,239 --> 02:45:43,729
boggle this entire thing from from start

3656
02:45:47,860 --> 02:45:46,249
to finish so now we don't have any

3657
02:45:50,770 --> 02:45:47,870
choice but to go

3658
02:45:53,530 --> 02:45:50,780
down the conspiracy road they are they

3659
02:45:54,970 --> 02:45:53,540
are forcing us to think these funky

3660
02:45:57,280 --> 02:45:54,980
thoughts it's not us

3661
02:45:58,720 --> 02:45:57,290
it's them you know and I guess it's not

3662
02:46:00,761 --> 02:45:58,730
even really funky thoughts it's us

3663
02:46:02,261 --> 02:46:00,771
coming up with theories to try and

3664
02:46:04,301 --> 02:46:02,271
figure out what might have happened it's

3665
02:46:06,700 --> 02:46:04,311
us simply applying the scientific method

3666
02:46:08,650 --> 02:46:06,710
to decide how this might have happened

3667
02:46:11,320 --> 02:46:08,660
so we come up with theories and we start

3668
02:46:13,660 --> 02:46:11,330
to test for it right we want to verify

3669
02:46:16,390 --> 02:46:13,670
the actual things that occurred the

3670
02:46:18,940 --> 02:46:16,400
problem is we have so little data at

3671
02:46:22,270 --> 02:46:18,950
this point that it is hard to prove and

3672
02:46:23,790 --> 02:46:22,280
disprove most of the theories that that

3673
02:46:25,990 --> 02:46:23,800
we could come up with right now

3674
02:46:29,530 --> 02:46:26,000
literally you and I can throw at the

3675
02:46:31,420 --> 02:46:29,540
MKULTRA word and like that kind of works

3676
02:46:33,790 --> 02:46:31,430
and I don't hide it can't disprove it

3677
02:46:34,990 --> 02:46:33,800
because there's so little so much of the

3678
02:46:39,130 --> 02:46:35,000
data it not only hasn't been released

3679
02:46:40,270 --> 02:46:39,140
has been taken away so much of the data

3680
02:46:41,980 --> 02:46:40,280
has been taken away that it makes me

3681
02:46:44,980 --> 02:46:41,990
want to look at that sort of theory even

3682
02:46:48,610 --> 02:46:44,990
more now because I can't disprove it now

3683
02:46:52,570 --> 02:46:48,620
what about if we what if we like spin

3684
02:46:56,500 --> 02:46:52,580
this around 180 degrees what if he's not

3685
02:46:58,450 --> 02:46:56,510
even real what if he's not even real

3686
02:47:00,670 --> 02:46:58,460
what if his Stephen paddle is made up

3687
02:47:03,551 --> 02:47:00,680
just like a made-up person yeah what if

3688
02:47:04,960 --> 02:47:03,561
his brother is in on this that guy that

3689
02:47:10,420 --> 02:47:04,970
was interview you know what I mean just

3690
02:47:12,250 --> 02:47:10,430
what if all of this was fake it makes

3691
02:47:14,370 --> 02:47:12,260
sense it would make a certain level of

3692
02:47:16,870 --> 02:47:14,380
sense as well yeah and honestly I can't

3693
02:47:19,240 --> 02:47:16,880
disprove that because of the the limited

3694
02:47:22,720 --> 02:47:19,250
amount of data I mean we've only got a

3695
02:47:25,240 --> 02:47:22,730
handful of pictures of this guy and it's

3696
02:47:28,060 --> 02:47:25,250
I mean and by handful I think three I've

3697
02:47:30,040 --> 02:47:28,070
seen three three three shots right right

3698
02:47:32,080 --> 02:47:30,050
and and that's it and that's after

3699
02:47:34,630 --> 02:47:32,090
looking for days and days and days and

3700
02:47:36,820 --> 02:47:34,640
and every major media outlet on the

3701
02:47:39,640 --> 02:47:36,830
planet doing the same thing I mean

3702
02:47:42,190 --> 02:47:39,650
that's that's a rarity my my

3703
02:47:44,380 --> 02:47:42,200
two-year-old son has I don't know a

3704
02:47:48,670 --> 02:47:44,390
thousandfold more pictures than that

3705
02:47:52,440 --> 02:47:48,680
online ah so I mean it's not a stretch

3706
02:47:55,390 --> 02:47:52,450
yeah it's not a stretch I'm looking here

3707
02:48:01,120 --> 02:47:55,400
- Steven paddock you know in Google and

3708
02:48:01,810 --> 02:48:01,130
there's literally the ones that are here

3709
02:48:09,550 --> 02:48:01,820
the

3710
02:48:12,490 --> 02:48:09,560
driver's license he was a pilot where's

3711
02:48:15,340 --> 02:48:12,500
his where where are the photographs I

3712
02:48:18,280 --> 02:48:15,350
know I know we should we should at least

3713
02:48:21,400 --> 02:48:18,290
have DMV shots and other license sort of

3714
02:48:23,590 --> 02:48:21,410
shots at this point and I went over and

3715
02:48:26,800 --> 02:48:23,600
I decided to branch out because what if

3716
02:48:29,470 --> 02:48:26,810
what if multiple search engines were

3717
02:48:31,511 --> 02:48:29,480
let's say compromised in this they would

3718
02:48:33,940 --> 02:48:31,521
if the information about him was removed

3719
02:48:35,890 --> 02:48:33,950
off of the net right so I decided to go

3720
02:48:38,020 --> 02:48:35,900
to some of the smaller search engines

3721
02:48:40,450 --> 02:48:38,030
there's one called DuckDuckGo and

3722
02:48:42,280 --> 02:48:40,460
whatnot that hold their own catalog of

3723
02:48:45,250 --> 02:48:42,290
search data and I haven't been able to

3724
02:48:48,490 --> 02:48:45,260
find any additional data on any of them

3725
02:48:53,261 --> 02:48:48,500
and his girlfriend one picture to one

3726
02:48:55,720 --> 02:48:53,271
how is that even possible I mean I even

3727
02:48:57,580 --> 02:48:55,730
even grandparents in my family that

3728
02:48:59,380 --> 02:48:57,590
don't like computers have more pictures

3729
02:49:01,240 --> 02:48:59,390
than that on them I'm like 8 and I'm

3730
02:49:02,590 --> 02:49:01,250
wondering if this one picture that they

3731
02:49:07,600 --> 02:49:02,600
keep showing what is this a passport

3732
02:49:09,970 --> 02:49:07,610
photograph I don't know like it you know

3733
02:49:12,670 --> 02:49:09,980
what Brian thank you so much where when

3734
02:49:15,520 --> 02:49:12,680
and where can everybody see your show

3735
02:49:17,261 --> 02:49:15,530
they can follow my show easiest ways to

3736
02:49:17,500 --> 02:49:17,271
go over to YouTube and just type in my

3737
02:49:21,850 --> 02:49:17,510
name

3738
02:49:24,040 --> 02:49:21,860
LUN D uke and the London show is every

3739
02:49:26,860 --> 02:49:24,050
day Monday through Thursday and we talk

3740
02:49:30,820 --> 02:49:26,870
about all sorts of nerdy stuff you know

3741
02:49:31,960 --> 02:49:30,830
what I want you to okay I'm just gonna

3742
02:49:37,360 --> 02:49:31,970
do it I want you to tell everybody

3743
02:49:39,340 --> 02:49:37,370
where's the name one dude from so it is

3744
02:49:41,500 --> 02:49:39,350
a combination of me and my wife's name

3745
02:49:44,560 --> 02:49:41,510
my wife and I met each other when we

3746
02:49:47,080 --> 02:49:44,570
were a very young age and we eventually

3747
02:49:50,710 --> 02:49:47,090
combined our two last names together to

3748
02:49:52,180 --> 02:49:50,720
create a unique name I wanted to have a

3749
02:49:54,460 --> 02:49:52,190
unique name that people could could

3750
02:49:56,170 --> 02:49:54,470
search for and find and look that that

3751
02:49:58,600 --> 02:49:56,180
no one had ever had before so I am the

3752
02:50:00,610 --> 02:49:58,610
I'm the first LUN do to exist in human

3753
02:50:04,511 --> 02:50:00,620
history so it makes it very easy to find

3754
02:50:06,940 --> 02:50:04,521
me it's a true pseudonym is it is it is

3755
02:50:10,450 --> 02:50:06,950
kind of is become my actual identity now

3756
02:50:12,490 --> 02:50:10,460
but but yeah we we created it basically

3757
02:50:13,680 --> 02:50:12,500
when we were in high school in the 1990s

3758
02:50:16,350 --> 02:50:13,690
and uh

3759
02:50:19,081 --> 02:50:16,360
and it just kind of lund and Duke

3760
02:50:20,940 --> 02:50:19,091
smashed together to join at the common D

3761
02:50:22,860 --> 02:50:20,950
worked out quite wonderfully well now

3762
02:50:24,360 --> 02:50:22,870
that I'm you know doing what I do and

3763
02:50:25,801 --> 02:50:24,370
writing and everything else for a living

3764
02:50:29,341 --> 02:50:25,811
I don't need to worry about finding a

3765
02:50:33,331 --> 02:50:29,351
pen name I've already got one so so the

3766
02:50:37,440 --> 02:50:33,341
Lund Duke family tree it's a jar and me

3767
02:50:38,940 --> 02:50:37,450
yes thank you man and just all the best

3768
02:50:41,581 --> 02:50:38,950
to you everybody just go to the Lundy

3769
02:50:44,251 --> 02:50:41,591
comments right there and his blog is

3770
02:50:48,030 --> 02:50:44,261
great everything that he does and this

3771
02:50:50,520 --> 02:50:48,040
is his full-time job Linux and breaking

3772
02:50:52,261 --> 02:50:50,530
down computers and and everything about

3773
02:50:54,480 --> 02:50:52,271
technology is what he does every day

3774
02:50:57,961 --> 02:50:54,490
thank you for you just say it correctly

3775
02:50:58,501 --> 02:50:57,971
I'm afraid I did it for you appreciate

3776
02:51:00,331 --> 02:50:58,511
it

3777
02:51:02,341 --> 02:51:00,341
thank you Brian be safe and be well out

3778
02:51:05,520 --> 02:51:02,351
there you as well my friend I'll talk to

3779
02:51:07,860 --> 02:51:05,530
you Brian lund duke everybody and i do i

3780
02:51:12,060 --> 02:51:07,870
do mean this it's it's very very simple

3781
02:51:14,150 --> 02:51:12,070
lund duke lu and d uke calm the links

3782
02:51:17,430 --> 02:51:14,160
were over at jimmy church radio.com

3783
02:51:20,190 --> 02:51:17,440
alright his videos are great and they

3784
02:51:24,211 --> 02:51:20,200
will make you laugh but the the tech

3785
02:51:27,751 --> 02:51:24,221
stuff is is very very cool so go and get

3786
02:51:30,480 --> 02:51:27,761
your education on over at Lund do calm

3787
02:51:32,551 --> 02:51:30,490
and before I depart I've got a couple of

3788
02:51:34,980 --> 02:51:32,561
things that I want to run by you really

3789
02:51:37,051 --> 02:51:34,990
quick because they are interesting and

3790
02:51:40,501 --> 02:51:37,061
it's also all of the news that you know

3791
02:51:43,230 --> 02:51:40,511
absolutely nothing about and this first

3792
02:51:46,740 --> 02:51:43,240
thing up the Baltimore Police Department

3793
02:51:49,411 --> 02:51:46,750
has announced the deaths of three men

3794
02:51:52,560 --> 02:51:49,421
shot and two separate incidents pushing

3795
02:51:55,560 --> 02:51:52,570
the city's homicide count to two hundred

3796
02:51:59,011 --> 02:51:55,570
and seventy eight so far this year ahead

3797
02:52:03,810 --> 02:51:59,021
of New York in terms of total murders

3798
02:52:06,631 --> 02:52:03,820
and Chicago in murders per capita of the

3799
02:52:09,030 --> 02:52:06,641
last 100 homicides the majority were

3800
02:52:11,640 --> 02:52:09,040
shooting deaths the highest numbers of

3801
02:52:16,881 --> 02:52:11,650
deaths were for black males in their 20s

3802
02:52:20,220 --> 02:52:16,891
30s and 40s with 41 22 and 16 homicides

3803
02:52:24,211 --> 02:52:20,230
respectively all generations were hit

3804
02:52:27,650 --> 02:52:24,221
however from teenagers as young as 15 to

3805
02:52:31,770 --> 02:52:27,660
the elderly at 97 years

3806
02:52:35,490 --> 02:52:31,780
overall homicides were up 16% over last

3807
02:52:38,790 --> 02:52:35,500
year as of October 7th and it is on pace

3808
02:52:42,300 --> 02:52:38,800
for the deadliest year on record on a

3809
02:52:45,240 --> 02:52:42,310
per capita basis and in total homicides

3810
02:52:50,460 --> 02:52:45,250
Baltimore's current population is just

3811
02:52:52,910 --> 02:52:50,470
over 620 1000 absolutely incredible well

3812
02:52:55,890 --> 02:52:52,920
I got to talk about this because

3813
02:52:59,960 --> 02:52:55,900
tropical storm now turne hurricane o

3814
02:53:05,640 --> 02:52:59,970
philia is bearing down on Ireland with

3815
02:53:10,290 --> 02:53:05,650
speeds now wind speeds of about a 109

3816
02:53:12,900 --> 02:53:10,300
miles per hour in Ireland now I said

3817
02:53:16,590 --> 02:53:12,910
this last week and I mean this Oh fie

3818
02:53:20,011 --> 02:53:16,600
Lea is the 10th tropical storm in a row

3819
02:53:23,100 --> 02:53:20,021
to reach the status of a hurricane in

3820
02:53:27,060 --> 02:53:23,110
the Atlantic Ocean this season it hasn't

3821
02:53:30,270 --> 02:53:27,070
happened for over 120 years the last

3822
02:53:35,070 --> 02:53:30,280
time it happened was in 1893 it also

3823
02:53:39,720 --> 02:53:35,080
happened in 1886 and in 1878 but not

3824
02:53:41,790 --> 02:53:39,730
since 1893 have we seen anything like

3825
02:53:45,511 --> 02:53:41,800
this and back then the way that they

3826
02:53:47,180 --> 02:53:45,521
were tracking storms was not obviously

3827
02:53:50,130 --> 02:53:47,190
with satellites but they didn't have

3828
02:53:52,400 --> 02:53:50,140
electricity or the data or the computers

3829
02:53:56,070 --> 02:53:52,410
to track this and accurately monitor

3830
02:53:58,140 --> 02:53:56,080
wind speeds and storms okay but one

3831
02:54:01,261 --> 02:53:58,150
thing is for sure in the technical age

3832
02:54:05,490 --> 02:54:01,271
since 1900 right

3833
02:54:07,080 --> 02:54:05,500
this is 2017 we have not seen it and it

3834
02:54:11,490 --> 02:54:07,090
makes you wonder if there isn't

3835
02:54:14,011 --> 02:54:11,500
something else going on now barely one

3836
02:54:16,050 --> 02:54:14,021
month removed from that massive data

3837
02:54:18,980 --> 02:54:16,060
breach that exposed personal information

3838
02:54:21,960 --> 02:54:18,990
for more than 145 million Americans

3839
02:54:25,440 --> 02:54:21,970
Equifax appears to have been compromised

3840
02:54:30,000 --> 02:54:25,450
again this this last time the website

3841
02:54:33,840 --> 02:54:30,010
was directing customers to malicious

3842
02:54:35,970 --> 02:54:33,850
malware now I had said now this is the

3843
02:54:38,340 --> 02:54:35,980
thing this is what is bizarre about this

3844
02:54:38,730 --> 02:54:38,350
the issue involves a third-party vendor

3845
02:54:42,270 --> 02:54:38,740
for

3846
02:54:44,881 --> 02:54:42,280
Equifax I had mentioned the day of the

3847
02:54:47,640 --> 02:54:44,891
breach when Equifax had said that they

3848
02:54:49,830 --> 02:54:47,650
were going to provide free credit

3849
02:54:52,801 --> 02:54:49,840
monitoring services for everybody that

3850
02:54:55,440 --> 02:54:52,811
was affected all Equifax come all you

3851
02:54:59,580 --> 02:54:55,450
had to do was go and register on that

3852
02:55:03,810 --> 02:54:59,590
day I was directed to fake websites I

3853
02:55:06,000 --> 02:55:03,820
had said that you know and and it is now

3854
02:55:09,631 --> 02:55:06,010
coming out I had to go back and listen

3855
02:55:11,580 --> 02:55:09,641
to my exact words what I do remember was

3856
02:55:15,540 --> 02:55:11,590
the experience that I was going through

3857
02:55:18,120 --> 02:55:15,550
I knew by clicking on this that I was

3858
02:55:20,700 --> 02:55:18,130
not on a real website I couldn't enter

3859
02:55:21,540 --> 02:55:20,710
my data and I did it like three or four

3860
02:55:24,480 --> 02:55:21,550
times

3861
02:55:27,530 --> 02:55:24,490
it was forcing me to click on a button

3862
02:55:30,720 --> 02:55:27,540
which I never do I'm glad that I didn't

3863
02:55:32,881 --> 02:55:30,730
write but that's what was really

3864
02:55:35,881 --> 02:55:32,891
fascinating to me and I kept going back

3865
02:55:39,600 --> 02:55:35,891
and so I went back to CNN I went back to

3866
02:55:41,430 --> 02:55:39,610
MS and I went back to Fox I went to RT I

3867
02:55:43,410 --> 02:55:41,440
went to everybody that was reporting on

3868
02:55:46,381 --> 02:55:43,420
Equifax and the hyperlink that was

3869
02:55:49,680 --> 02:55:46,391
provided for in those articles for the

3870
02:55:53,970 --> 02:55:49,690
Equifax free credit reporting and it all

3871
02:55:57,091 --> 02:55:53,980
took me back to the fake site how many

3872
02:56:00,150 --> 02:55:57,101
people I'm just one how many people got

3873
02:56:02,520 --> 02:56:00,160
suckered into going to the fake site

3874
02:56:06,390 --> 02:56:02,530
think about that for a second and it's

3875
02:56:08,070 --> 02:56:06,400
Equifax right and and and again and I

3876
02:56:11,100 --> 02:56:08,080
talked about this last week and I talked

3877
02:56:13,950 --> 02:56:11,110
about it the week before but I need to

3878
02:56:19,100 --> 02:56:13,960
drive this home you can't trust anybody

3879
02:56:22,470 --> 02:56:19,110
these days do not click on anything ever

3880
02:56:25,381 --> 02:56:22,480
that's the only way that you can be

3881
02:56:27,030 --> 02:56:25,391
assured that you're gonna run clean all

3882
02:56:28,680 --> 02:56:27,040
right I want to thank Brian lund do for

3883
02:56:31,921 --> 02:56:28,690
coming in tonight very fascinating

3884
02:56:34,801 --> 02:56:31,931
conversation the hacking of the Las

3885
02:56:37,320 --> 02:56:34,811
Vegas shooter betablox executive

3886
02:56:39,360 --> 02:56:37,330
producers Rita Kumari on shows produced

3887
02:56:41,310 --> 02:56:39,370
by Hilton Jay Paul marked eco VAR l j3

3888
02:56:41,820 --> 02:56:41,320
Renae Jonah's Thank You Dennis thank you

3889
02:56:43,830 --> 02:56:41,830
Bob

3890
02:56:46,711 --> 02:56:43,840
announcers our Steve Hart og Bhutto

3891
02:56:49,740 --> 02:56:46,721
mrdiko barf ad by Dale webmaster drew

3892
02:56:51,810 --> 02:56:49,750
the geek music doug aldrich intro space

3893
02:56:54,320 --> 02:56:51,820
boys space boy music calm

3894
02:56:57,840 --> 02:56:54,330
fade to black is produced by kjsurya

3895
02:56:59,880 --> 02:56:57,850
network and syndication as kgr a the

3896
02:57:01,800 --> 02:56:59,890
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3897
02:57:03,060 --> 02:57:01,810
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3898
02:57:05,220 --> 02:57:03,070
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3899
02:57:06,660 --> 02:57:05,230
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3900
02:57:08,700 --> 02:57:06,670
copied or used anywhere in the known

3901
02:57:10,410 --> 02:57:08,710
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3902
02:57:12,170 --> 02:57:10,420
fade to black or the game-changer

3903
02:57:17,100 --> 02:57:12,180
network i'm your host jimmy church

3904
02:57:21,810 --> 02:57:17,110
tomorrow night right here I'm alia

3905
02:57:27,120 --> 02:57:21,820
Aeon Karras oh no tomorrow night is this

3906
02:57:30,120 --> 02:57:27,130
job skates that's Wednesday night Amelia

3907
02:57:31,950 --> 02:57:30,130
be on Keros all right tomorrow night

3908
02:57:35,400 --> 02:57:31,960
Josh gates is gonna be here live from

3909
02:57:44,090 --> 02:57:35,410
Cairo Egypt but until then I want